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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Parts and Labor (unless you are doing this yourself) will run about $7-8K at most shops for a basic shortblock, installed, setup, and swaped out for your stock block. There isn't really a cheap way to do it, unless you do the work yourself. Then you have things to consider, such as fuel system, engine management (bury the eManage..trust me), and tuning.

Just an FYI, stock block FI is extremely reliable, when done correctly, with modest boost. Don't be afraid to go FI first, and then buildup later.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JBL85
Hey Guys, I have a 05 6 speed with 55k on it. I was going to install a Greddy Twin Turbo kit and call it a day, but decided to build the motor before hand. I was thinking of upgrading the pistons and rods and then changing the cams to lower the compression. If anyone knows a reliable build list so I could build a reliable 600hp motor. I am not trying to go crazy and get it bored and machined. I don't want to spend $20k building a motor. If $3-5k(in parts only) can build me a stout motor to handle the range of the greddy system, I'd surely appreciate the recipe (part/brand).

I am going to do a meth kit and upgrade fuel system. I will do a full fuel management system down the line when I am ready to start pushing it and just deal with the e-manage for now. Clutch will be upgraded, cooling system (radiator + tranny cooler) upgraded. Car already has upgraded bbk and coilovers and forged wheels. Ready for the power.

Thanks for any help.
I said 3-5k on motor parts. Look cassi, I am probably spending nearly $20,000 on everything, I don't think 3-5k for the motor parts is unrealistic. ONCE AGAIN RE-READ wow some pathetic people exist on this planet.....back to lurking for me
Nevermind, you clearly know more than I do and do not need any help from idiots like myself.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Im building my motor myself with me my brother and one friend. Its going to cost me still around 4k with what Im doing, but doing it yourself is the only way if you want to save money. However you better know what your doing if your going to build it yourself. Otherwise save up you $ and have a shop do it.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Just an FYI, stock block FI is extremely reliable, when done correctly, with modest boost. Don't be afraid to go FI first, and then buildup later.
Good Point. Take it one step at a time.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Good Point. Take it one step at a time.
I dont take steps, i jump everywhere and always fall into ditches.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Parts and Labor (unless you are doing this yourself) will run about $7-8K at most shops for a basic shortblock, installed, setup, and swaped out for your stock block. There isn't really a cheap way to do it, unless you do the work yourself. Then you have things to consider, such as fuel system, engine management (bury the eManage..trust me), and tuning.

Just an FYI, stock block FI is extremely reliable, when done correctly, with modest boost. Don't be afraid to go FI first, and then buildup later.
I was going to just install the turbo system without a built motor but I researched and heard the rods are a weak link. I figured it was safer for me to do it on a block that could somewhat handle the power so I don't make a mess.

I've got a 2 post lift, power tools, cnc mill and cnc lathe in case anything needs custom fab, and a spare car to drive in the mean time. So I think I am up for the challenge. Got a friend who has turbo'ed a few cars able to help, so I feel confident this will go off without too much hiccups.

Originally Posted by ToastZ
Good Point. Take it one step at a time.
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I dont take steps, i jump everywhere and always fall into ditches.
Either way, spend $$ and have a safe block or don't spend money and pull the motor out again later.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JBL85
Wow man thanks for such a great answer. I appreciate your time. I do plan to install a return fuel system, stage 2 carbonetic clutch, upgrade the fuel system and do a custom exhaust. As far as fuel management, I'd like to get a stand alone. I rather not piggyback with the utec. I was just waiting to decide on that until I know what shop will be tuning the car and what systems they can tune on.

No problem. I am in the process of researching my own build. Stand alone is the way to go if it doesn't conflict with your budget; I don't think I could budget a stand alone in my build.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Parts and Labor (unless you are doing this yourself) will run about $7-8K at most shops for a basic shortblock, installed, setup, and swaped out for your stock block. There isn't really a cheap way to do it, unless you do the work yourself. Then you have things to consider, such as fuel system, engine management (bury the eManage..trust me), and tuning.

Just an FYI, stock block FI is extremely reliable, when done correctly, with modest boost. Don't be afraid to go FI first, and then buildup later.
Hey Sharif; what would you give as a rough estimate of how much PSI would be "safe" on the stock block and what kind of RWHP numbers that would translate into with a kit like the Greddy TT versus something like the UTEC and a built engine with the Greddy TT? I know the tune plays a major role though.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Asad_A203
Hey Sharif; what would you give as a rough estimate of how much PSI would be "safe" on the stock block and what kind of RWHP numbers that would translate into with a kit like the Greddy TT versus something like the UTEC and a built engine with the Greddy TT? I know the tune plays a major role though.
8psi around 400whp seems to be the norm and yes the tune has a lot to do with it along with the quality of all the other parts involved.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
8psi around 400whp seems to be the norm and yes the tune has a lot to do with it along with the quality of all the other parts involved.
Thanks; I expected around that.
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