I've been quietly doing research on here for the past few months and biting my time seeing how Sound Performance has a few Z builds occupying the shop. I'd love to have their twin turbo kit for a lot of reasons. Most of all the option to run big will always be there. Here's the thing, they also deal and highly recommend Powerlab kits. Either way, I plan to build the block and run a Pro EFI.

Question for the community… Is it wrong to want a turbo kit for both show and go? More specifically, one spends all this money on a turbo kit just to open the hood and see a single charge pipe (twin setup). Granted a lot of guys like the clean look of the twin turbo setup.

My power goals are high but not crazy. I love running my cars down at the drag strip and would like to push the 1/4 mile rule on role cages, 11.5-12 flat would be great. I feel I can't go wrong with either but like every big purchase I like to get my thoughts out in the open before jumping in. Thanks for any input.

 

powerlab kits are the hottest thing on the market right now but need to know your goals, budget, ect.......

 

I have the SP tt kit in my G.

And I will tell you, we sat there in the shop staring under the hood wondering what to do because there is ZERO bling factor under my hood. As a matter of fact, if you didnt know my car you would never guess ANYTHING is done to it. BUT that is part of what I wanted.

Would be nice to have something there to see, but are you building the car for everyone else or yourself. I'll tell you this, the people I have given rides too, never complain that there's no bling after we peal them off the seat.

And you should have seen everyone's face at their dyno day when on the stock exhaust (y-pipe, mid-pipe, muffler) it still put down 451rwhp on like 11psi of boost.....and at another shops dyno-day it put up 546rwhp (new exhaust) on 15psi and pump.

Tom

 

I don't think theres anything wrong with have FI for show and go. The judges look for things that are done to the engine as well as exterior. It comes down to having a complete car.

 

Also,
If you end up waiting till we have some nice(r) weather down here, feel free to hit me up for a ride. Just tell Chris you want one and I'll swing by the shop.

Tom

 

I will be show and go when my car is finished and all I can say is that if you thought going F/I is expensive, try making it look pretty too .

That being said, there will be a bit of pride when someone asks whats under the hood. Although, I have seen the pics of Tom's setup and he's right, if you didn't know what to look for you would think he just crushed you on a stock motor and there is definately some fun in that as well.

 

I would say if you have the budget for the twin kit, by all means... DO IT!! we have had such good luck with it and you all know what it can do. You also have to take into consideration the other mods that need to be done to make HP like Tom's or our car dose. Fuel, and an EMS system just to name a few.

I have done a few powerlab kits and the owners have been very happy with the turbo out and the price for that matter. It is a gt35 and you will be limited in the long run... There are +'s and -'s to them both.... You would just have to take a ride in cars with the kits on them and see which one suits your needs and budget.

If your power goals exceed 500... then I think you have to go twins.

 

11.5 -12.0 is stock block territory, no need to build if that's all you want.

 

Tim I thought I was on stock fuel and a stock tune.....

Maybe thats why I get 6mpg at 30psi of boost hehehehehe

Tom

 

Cass waits for Quicksilver to show up

 

IMHO, the Powelabs isn't much to look at either...the turbo sorta flows with the whole look, but not the pipes. You just have one big long charge pipe w/ BOV which kinda looks out of place and random. You need to bling up the whole bay with chrome parts...catch can, steel lines, nice blanket, carbon engine cover, etc.

 

If ya didn't see it on the other thread.........guess it classifies as a sleeper (any chance to ***** myself)

 

By all means Tom, I'd love to see what the SP twin setup does in person. That would help beyond anything else I could ask on a forum. I went down there with every intention of seeing the shop 350z but it was out breaking records that weekend….

I've gone over it with Tim and I believe your opinion was Powerlab simply because I didn't need the extra power. I'm not sure what it will take to get 11.5" in the quarter or ever 12 seconds but I'm not too bad of a driver for as often as I go. Trust me I'm still torn and I know performance wise twins will be best. Either way you guys at SP have my business.

Budget isn't really an option as far as the decision to go with either setup. What's it about $3k difference in kits (still not cheap), but then again you'd save on the twin install by doing everything once. Going twin turbo will make me wait until I have the funds to do the engine build too, which is the reason I didn't push this winter for the project. Now Powerlab, I can bolt it up now and build next winter. Kind of wanted to keep that besides the point…. More of a "is twins over kill" while trying to make myself feel better about a single turbo by looking at the snail and the charge piping. Thanks for the opinions everyone, feel free to add some more.

 

do you have a dual gt35 setup?

 

Yeah, he's running the Sound Performance Twin turbo kit....

Link to his 769whp run.
http://www.fquick.com/videos/Tom__03..._769rwhp_/7049

 

The thought of bolting up their twin turbo kit to the stock block has crossed my mind.... Just a flat out efficient setup. All and all, I bought the car to be boosted and planned on their kit since day one. Just thinking it's overkill. I'm sure I'll get itchy with the power and want to turn it up sometime, maybe even learn how to really drive and start shooting for 10's. Been a while since I've ran a car that fast down the 1/4 mile.

 

When we were breaking in my motor we were blowing this setup through the bone stock exhaust (y-pipe back).....

On like 11 or 12psi or so it still did 450rwhp with ok spool......that exhaust was super restrictive obviously lol.
Pulled the exhaust off and at same boost setting the boost went up to 24psi lol

Tom

 

+1... my vote is in for just doing the Powerlab/Pro Efi kit. On 9 lbs you can make 390-410 whp and be good for the 11.5-12.0 pass on a stock block! Just use the left over money for some GOOD tires and some other goodies..

 

tire choice must be thought out that is sooooooo true.

Even with boost controller off, on the Khumo ECSTA MX's (274/40/18) I have unctrollable wheelspin through most of 3rd (at the track.....traction at the dragstrip seems to go away a lot easier than the street).

Tom

 

1st turbo kit should be GO...but a quality kit will come with the SHOW as well...
As far as power ...i am a big fan of the Sp twin turbo kit, but IMO primarly if you want to go some crazy liek thom (over 750+whp). For something lower either its great, i think the single gt37r is pretty responsive(cheaper choise too) and does 700whp (u'll need SPs twin pump setup 2), i know larry enjoyed the kit so its going to depend in the end your budget, goals, etc. Either way you go, its going to be a great choice.