Scott Bush & Relentless Autosports: Exposing the Hype, Lies, and Failure
04-10-2009, 03:00 PM
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Go ask Scott a technical question on JWT technology he promotes and profits from and see what kind of response you get. You will then understand what this thread is all about.
EDIT: After reading coachk's post I think it prudent for anyone following this thread who is "NOT" FI but considering it as the economy improves to read, search, & PM the obvious leaders of this thread and see what kind of response you get on a valid technical question on moving this community and the VQ35 engine forward,... you will then understand how important and powerful this forum remains to this day.
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04-10-2009, 03:14 PM
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I would have to agree with Mike 100% and here's why...as a consumer, when buying a product i.e. JWT turbo's, I would expect the owner of the company(Jim) to only deal with people/vendors that will represent his products with the utmost integrity,credibility,etc.etc because ultimately it is JWT's reputation on the line.
Some people such as my self buy products based on the principles of a persons good reputation as well as the product being a good product. If I were to consider buying JWT turbos because it is an excellent turbo and had knowledge that Jim was a douche, I would look at buying another kit. I have no interest in making douches rich no matter what.
Some people such as my self buy products based on the principles of a persons good reputation as well as the product being a good product. If I were to consider buying JWT turbos because it is an excellent turbo and had knowledge that Jim was a douche, I would look at buying another kit. I have no interest in making douches rich no matter what.
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04-10-2009, 03:33 PM
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Not necessarily. I think you are missing the point on the JWT thing. JWT is a good company. Just like all small companies, they market aggressively and push the limit of the technologies they have to work with to move forward and promote their products. Nothing wrong with that as long as the customer knows where the limits exist.
Go ask Scott a technical question on JWT technology he promotes and profits from and see what kind of response you get. You will then understand what this thread is all about.
Go ask Scott a technical question on JWT technology he promotes and profits from and see what kind of response you get. You will then understand what this thread is all about.
I would have to agree with Mike 100% and here's why...as a consumer, when buying a product i.e. JWT turbo's, I would expect the owner of the company(Jim) to only deal with people/vendors that will represent his products with the utmost integrity,credibility,etc.etc because ultimately it is JWT's reputation on the line.
Some people such as my self buy products based on the principles of a persons good reputation as well as the product being a good product. If I were to consider buying JWT turbos because it is an excellent turbo and had knowledge that Jim was a douche, I would look at buying another kit. I have no interest in making douches rich no matter what.
Some people such as my self buy products based on the principles of a persons good reputation as well as the product being a good product. If I were to consider buying JWT turbos because it is an excellent turbo and had knowledge that Jim was a douche, I would look at buying another kit. I have no interest in making douches rich no matter what.
04-10-2009, 03:44 PM
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well - from a casual readers perspective (that would be me)... 115 pages and over a month of banter and not until now does the "JWT blame" get thrown into the mix... it reeks of mob boredom so new topic needs to draw fresh blood.
In the whole of things I don’t think it is a big deal - because the true reality of this entire topic is very miniscule in the whole of things and as passionate as you are about Jim Wolf needing to take corrective actions, I simply don’t think he gives a **** about the trivial stuff (and I wouldn’t either)...
This thread has been humorous and I'm certain whatever amount of "warning" and "consumer protection" you felt was needed has been exhausted by now.
I'm not suggesting letting the thread die (it has become iconic)... but I am suggesting that it now looks like you have a new agenda (possibly out of boredom). If the JWT thing was a true concern, it would have been brought up long before now.
In the whole of things I don’t think it is a big deal - because the true reality of this entire topic is very miniscule in the whole of things and as passionate as you are about Jim Wolf needing to take corrective actions, I simply don’t think he gives a **** about the trivial stuff (and I wouldn’t either)...
This thread has been humorous and I'm certain whatever amount of "warning" and "consumer protection" you felt was needed has been exhausted by now.
I'm not suggesting letting the thread die (it has become iconic)... but I am suggesting that it now looks like you have a new agenda (possibly out of boredom). If the JWT thing was a true concern, it would have been brought up long before now.
Finally, if some members want to really take action against this fraudulent bastard Scott Bush then they need to contact JWT and ask them why RA is allowed to install their turbo systems,still??????????? I tried to talk to JIM about VRT a long time ago and he was pretty much didnt careit until he got ripped off. I hope he will listen now and it will most likely take more then just me talking to him since that didnt work well in the past.
You may have missed this in your 'from a casual readers perspective"....There is more....but I am too "Bored" and lazy to look for more
So I repeat..........This is and will always be a thread to warn others about scott/RA/VRT.......we are only stating the obvious.....scott hangs out at JWT....not like the other vendors that only communicate by phone and mail....so its in Jim's best interest to set the facts straight....his silence only make it seem that he condones scotts actions.
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04-10-2009, 03:55 PM
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I would have to agree with Mike 100% and here's why...as a consumer, when buying a product i.e. JWT turbo's, I would expect the owner of the company(Jim) to only deal with people/vendors that will represent his products with the utmost integrity,credibility,etc.etc because ultimately it is JWT's reputation on the line.
Some people such as my self buy products based on the principles of a persons good reputation as well as the product being a good product. If I were to consider buying JWT turbos because it is an excellent turbo and had knowledge that Jim was a douche, I would look at buying another kit. I have no interest in making douches rich no matter what.
Some people such as my self buy products based on the principles of a persons good reputation as well as the product being a good product. If I were to consider buying JWT turbos because it is an excellent turbo and had knowledge that Jim was a douche, I would look at buying another kit. I have no interest in making douches rich no matter what.
Very well said. The last line was hilarious.
04-10-2009, 04:20 PM
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Taken from...Post 232 Page 12......We are now on Post 2291...page 115 .....is that "Long Before Now" enough for you??
You may have missed this in your 'from a casual readers perspective"....There is more....but I am too "Bored" and lazy to look for more
So I repeat..........This is and will always be a thread to warn others about scott/RA/VRT.......we are only stating the obvious.....scott hangs out at JWT....not like the other vendors that only communicate by phone and mail....so its in Jim's best interest to set the facts straight....his silence only make it seem that he condones scotts actions.
You may have missed this in your 'from a casual readers perspective"....There is more....but I am too "Bored" and lazy to look for more
So I repeat..........This is and will always be a thread to warn others about scott/RA/VRT.......we are only stating the obvious.....scott hangs out at JWT....not like the other vendors that only communicate by phone and mail....so its in Jim's best interest to set the facts straight....his silence only make it seem that he condones scotts actions.
And I stand by that post!!!!!! It is the only way to rid the world of Scott and others who follow in his footsteps preying on unsuspecting victims
Go to the source and cut them off at the source!!!!!!! If every member that read this thread called JWT and complained about the lies,misleading propaganda,etc..... Scott is leading others to beleive, Jim would cut him off. But nobody is doing it so it isnt going to happen unless we take other drastic measures....BAR complaint and investigation, a report to the DEH, etc........
04-10-2009, 04:30 PM
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And I stand by that post!!!!!! It is the only way to rid the world of Scott and others who follow in his footsteps preying on unsuspecting victims Go to the source and cut them off at the source!!!!!!! If every member that read this thread called JWT and complained about the lies,misleading propaganda,etc..... Scott is leading others to beleive, Jim would cut him off. But nobody is doing it so it isnt going to happen unless we take other drastic measures....BAR complaint and investigation, a report to the DEH, etc........
Go to the source and cut them off at the source!!!!!!! If every member that read this thread called JWT and complained about the lies,misleading propaganda,etc..... Scott is leading others to beleive, Jim would cut him off. But nobody is doing it so it isnt going to happen unless we take other drastic measures....BAR complaint and investigation, a report to the DEH, etc........So OCG35...before you try and bash me...you need to go back and read through all 2294 posts
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04-10-2009, 05:22 PM
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Thanks for pic's ...looked like a great turnout....
I appreciate all of the information posted in this thread.
Here is my contribution:
https://my350z.com/forum/event-photo...vine-ca-_.html
Here is my contribution:
https://my350z.com/forum/event-photo...vine-ca-_.html
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04-10-2009, 05:36 PM
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And there you have it......true statement.....And I hope OCG35 now understands that this is not a Jim bashing....the subject is scott....Hell, I own the 850bb and the 700bb turbo kit....We are ASKING Jim to protect his brand from misleading propaganda as Tim has said.
So OCG35...before you try and bash me...you need to go back and read through all 2294 posts
So OCG35...before you try and bash me...you need to go back and read through all 2294 posts
#2) I have followed this thread form the very first post. When I referenced "casual reader" I imply "reading the thread" as opposed to jumping on the slam fest.
I am not here to state my opinion on the RA/VRT matter... but whether you admit it or not the JWT issue was not a target factor in the few mentions scattered about this thread... recently it appears to be a target source.
Take it for what its worth - I don’t have the interest that you do so I'm looking at the entire issue from a perspective that isn’t as emotionally involved. However, that does not mean I'm not able to see a trend when it starts...
Again, I'm not bashing anyone or trying to create drama - so drama queens you can keep your bashing to yourselves. I simply stated my perspective - which is as valid as any of the band-wagoners in here.
Having that been written – If the thread doesn’t take a turn to the JWT bash-fest that it looked like it might, then I am wrong… but already several cronies chimed in and started barking about it – so it seems as if my concern has some merit.
04-10-2009, 05:49 PM
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#1) I am not here to make enemies - so "bashing you" is not my agenda
#2) I have followed this thread form the very first post. When I referenced "casual reader" I imply "reading the thread" as opposed to jumping on the slam fest.
I am not here to state my opinion on the RA/VRT matter... but whether you admit it or not the JWT issue was not a target factor in the few mentions scattered about this thread... recently it appears to be a target source.
Take it for what its worth - I don’t have the interest that you do so I'm looking at the entire issue from a perspective that isn’t as emotionally involved. However, that does not mean I'm not able to see a trend when it starts...
Again, I'm not bashing anyone or trying to create drama - so drama queens you can keep your bashing to yourselves. I simply stated my perspective - which is as valid as any of the band-wagoners in here.
Having that been written – If the thread doesn’t take a turn to the JWT bash-fest that it looked like it might, then I am wrong… but already several cronies chimed in and started barking about it – so it seems as if my concern has some merit.
#2) I have followed this thread form the very first post. When I referenced "casual reader" I imply "reading the thread" as opposed to jumping on the slam fest.
I am not here to state my opinion on the RA/VRT matter... but whether you admit it or not the JWT issue was not a target factor in the few mentions scattered about this thread... recently it appears to be a target source.
Take it for what its worth - I don’t have the interest that you do so I'm looking at the entire issue from a perspective that isn’t as emotionally involved. However, that does not mean I'm not able to see a trend when it starts...
Again, I'm not bashing anyone or trying to create drama - so drama queens you can keep your bashing to yourselves. I simply stated my perspective - which is as valid as any of the band-wagoners in here.
Having that been written – If the thread doesn’t take a turn to the JWT bash-fest that it looked like it might, then I am wrong… but already several cronies chimed in and started barking about it – so it seems as if my concern has some merit.
Originally Posted by XKR
And I hope OCG35 now understands that this is not a Jim bashing....the subject is scott....Hell, I own the 850bb and the 700bb turbo kit....We are ASKING Jim to protect his brand from misleading propaganda as Tim has said.
Originally Posted by XKR
So I repeat..........This is and will always be a thread to warn others about scott/RA/VRT.......we are only stating the obvious.....scott hangs out at JWT....not like the other vendors that only communicate by phone and mail....so its in Jim's best interest to set the facts straight....his silence only make it seem that he condones scotts actions. .
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04-10-2009, 09:04 PM
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<p><p><b>WARNING!!!</b></p><p>Apparently Jim Wolf is beyond reproach. Any legitimate criticisms of Jim's history of involvement with VRT/RA as well as his continued support of Scott Bush will be considered needless bashing.<img src="/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="8" class="inlineimg" /></p></p>
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04-10-2009, 09:13 PM
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Jim is actually a pretty down to earth guy from my dealings with him. I honestly do not know why he continues to deal with Scott though. I know "how" Scott got in the position to do business with him though. The same way VRT did. Through Mark the Mechanic. If it wasn't for Mark doing the work for Scott, I am sure Jim wouldn't give him the time of day.
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<p><p><b>WARNING!!!</b></p><p>Apparently Jim Wolf is beyond reproach. Any legitimate criticisms of Jim's history of involvement with VRT/RA as well as his continued support of Scott Bush will be considered needless bashing.<img src="/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="8" class="inlineimg" /></p></p>
Jim is actually a pretty down to earth guy from my dealings with him. I honestly do not know why he continues to deal with Scott though. I know "how" Scott got in the position to do business with him though. The same way VRT did. Through Mark the Mechanic. If it wasn't for Mark doing the work for Scott, I am sure Jim wouldn't give him the time of day.
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