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Old 09-15-2009, 12:32 PM
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at only 500 hp, you def has A LOT of room to grow. definitely didnt need 20g and more lag (is 15psi at 4250 pretty average for gt28 sized turbos) to make that kinda power. Ramp those suckers up!

Originally Posted by Jay'Z
Doesnt XKR have Triple Carbon Clutch?? I would try 30psi if I had a spare built engine/TT/Clutch/Tranny..

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I have the Carbon triple......but it will not hold over 900 on sharif's dyno...and i sure as hell dont want him to find the limit on my clutch setup. I am not willing to change out the carbonetics for a race only setup....Thats why I told him when he goes for 1000whp....it has to be done on a DJ.

Sharif ordered a Sound Performance Diff support for my car. I am not taking any chances.

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Old 09-15-2009, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ttg35fort
I think Mike said the Carbonetics tripple disk is rated to 900 hp. That is likely crank hp, not wheel hp. I had a Clutchmasters twin disk rated to 600 hp, but I fried the clutch plates with about 575 whp launching at 3500 rpm with a moderate amount of clutch slippage.
What kind of torque numbers. Now I am scared to launch i have a nismo super copper mix twin plate. i holds fine with 620ftlbs but it might not be long to this world .
Mike have you considered a tilton, I have heard they hold the power but I never really heard about the drivability. I think the Injected guys run them don't quote me on that though.

I could find a home for that Carbonetics if you upgrade!

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Old 09-15-2009, 01:32 PM
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Hey my clutch is rated to 690BHP......I make considreably more than that on racegas (like closer to 900BHP) lol.....so they are conservative sometimes......waiting on mine to finally go before winter comes too

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Old 09-15-2009, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
What kind of torque numbers. Now I am scared to launch i have a nismo super copper mix twin plate. i holds fine with 620ftlbs but it might not be long to this world .
Mike have you considered a tilton, I have heard they hold the power but I never really heard about the drivability. I think the Injected guys run them don't quote me on that though.

I could find a home for that Carbonetics if you upgrade!
Some where in this thread....someone posted that Tilton is not a streetable setup....I love the way the Carbonetics feel....
Old 09-16-2009, 06:50 AM
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Not trying to be a jerk, there's freakin great info in this thread.... that said... there's sooooooooo much stuff here... could you start another thread after you get it running with pics and video?
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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
What kind of torque numbers. Now I am scared to launch i have a nismo super copper mix twin plate. i holds fine with 620ftlbs but it might not be long to this world .
At the time I was probably around 550 ft. lbs. One thing about Clutchmasters, though, is that they are designed to be very light weight. Their clutch plates are significantly smaller than the Carbonetics. They probably have one-half the surface area. Also, mine were the Kevlar plates. If I re-build that clutch to sell it, I'll put the carbon-ceramic plates in there to make it a FX700.

The Carbonetics is noticably smoother and will take more torque/hp, it's just quite a bit more expensive. But you do get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by baspence
Not trying to be a jerk, there's freakin great info in this thread.... that said... there's sooooooooo much stuff here... could you start another thread after you get it running with pics and video?
Sure....I will do that.
Old 09-16-2009, 07:53 AM
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Mike I would like you to know that I am checking into rehab because this thread is so addicting.
Old 09-16-2009, 01:04 PM
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I can't wait to see what HP this engine puts out. Non-sleeved block going for 900HP has this been done?
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Originally Posted by CrazyVQ35tt
I can't wait to see what HP this engine puts out. Non-sleeved block going for 900HP has this been done?
There is a first time for everything...

Most engine failures I have seen so far are caused by head lift, damaged bearings (that would be me ), etc. I have yet to see an instance where the stock sleeves cracked from being pushed to hard on a good tune. Maybe there is a post here somewhere where that has happened, but I have not seen it. Mike has already pushed a non-sleeved block past 800 whp on a DD dyno. Even then, I beleive that it was a turbo that failed, not a cylinder sleeve. Mike, correct me if I am wrong.
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Past 800 on his old engine set up what internals did he have
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Originally Posted by CrazyVQ35tt
Past 800 on his old engine set up what internals did he have
Mike this question is for you.

I beleive that it was Eagle rods and Arias pistons. Is that correct?
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Originally Posted by XKR
Sure....I will do that.
If you do, we may not get to the 100 page mark. Why shut it down why you are on a roll?
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Originally Posted by GreenGoblin
Mike I would like you to know that I am checking into rehab because this thread is so addicting.


Originally Posted by CrazyVQ35tt
I can't wait to see what HP this engine puts out. Non-sleeved block going for 900HP has this been done?
HP or WHP??? If hp.....I am no where near the first.....If whp....I am not quite sure.


Originally Posted by ttg35fort
Mike this question is for you.

I beleive that it was Eagle rods and Arias pistons. Is that correct?
This is correct

Originally Posted by ttg35fort
There is a first time for everything...

Most engine failures I have seen so far are caused by head lift, damaged bearings (that would be me ), etc. I have yet to see an instance where the stock sleeves cracked from being pushed to hard on a good tune. Maybe there is a post here somewhere where that has happened, but I have not seen it. Mike has already pushed a non-sleeved block past 800 whp on a DD dyno. Even then, I beleive that it was a turbo that failed, not a cylinder sleeve. Mike, correct me if I am wrong.
The 800whp was on a DJ......The turbo failed a year later on my way to ZdayZ. Neither Jim Wolf or Sharif could figure out why it failed. The other turbo was in perfect shape.

Sharif took the motor that did the 800whp run apart and inspected it before sending it to the new owner. He said that it also was in perfect shape and the internals were clean because of the 100% Meth

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Old 09-16-2009, 02:20 PM
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Sorry WHP is what I'm talking about, 800whp is with 98/meth or C16? Sorry about all the questions I'm just trying to find out what my car might be capable of next week.

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Originally Posted by CrazyVQ35tt
Sorry WHP is what I'm talking about, 800whp is with 98/meth or C16? Sorry about all the questions I'm just trying to find out what my car might be capable of next week.
With the 3.5L...it did the 800 using C16....You wont see any 3.5L VQ running anything near 800whp on pump gas.....Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by CrazyVQ35tt
Sorry WHP is what I'm talking about, 800whp is with 98/meth or C16? Sorry about all the questions I'm just trying to find out what my car might be capable of next week.
What is your build? Who is buiding it? Who is tuning it? What does your builder and/or tuner think it will be capable of?

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- Pauter Rods
- JE Forged Pistons with ceramic coating 95.5mm bore
- L19 head studs
- JWT Cams
- JWT HD Valve Springs
- Cosworth Head Gaskets
- TDO5-18G Twin Turbo
- Custom 4'' Front Mount Intercooler
- RC 750cc Injectors
- Custom 3'' down pipes
- APS 3'' dual exhaust
- Custom intake Plenum
here is some of the engine build and I'm running the F-CON V-PRO
Old 09-16-2009, 02:44 PM
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^ your turbos are WAY smaller than than ones use on XKR's car to make 800 DJ, and you dont have enough fuel to make much past 600 anyhow.

Originally Posted by XKR


Sharif took the motor that did the 800whp run apart and inspected it before sending it to the new owner. He said that it also was in perfect shape and the internals were clean because of the 100% Meth
Well kinda....

not the greatest leakdown and a new core was actually used because of a slight taper in the cylinders.

But now, all like new for a great price.

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