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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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If you're worried about the extra money for the powerlab kit then dont boost your car.

If you plan on spending $4000.00 set aside 6-8K if you plan on spending 8K set aside 12K


dont do a turbo and ever assume you can budget it in.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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you and reptile are the last two people i believe on my list that have a Stillen Kit and i said would eventually get rid of it
hes ovbiously going to fell a big difference... kinda of like when i switched from n/a to fi
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
hes ovbiously going to fell a big difference... kinda of like when i switched from n/a to fi
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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you and reptile are the last two people i believe on my list that have a Stillen Kit and i said would eventually get rid of it
I think i was probably the first.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JS04
Theres been plenty of people that have DD their Zs with the TN kit. Sure its not the best for power, but its not all really that bad. I'm enjoying mine for the time being.
In all fairness, any car that you rely on to get you to and from work shouldn't be boosted....

Boosting a TRUE DD is just asking for trouble. Boosting a TRUE DD with a TN setup is begging on your hands and knees for trouble. I have been saying the TN kit was a POS for years.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
In all fairness, any car that you rely on to get you to and from work shouldn't be boosted....

Boosting a TRUE DD is just asking for trouble. Boosting a TRUE DD with a TN setup is begging on your hands and knees for trouble. I have been saying the TN kit was a POS for years.
Maybe be so. Guess its just the luck of the draw how things happen. Buddy of mine has had his TN kit for the last 3yrs on his Z. Problem free so far and his car is his only means of transportation.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Maybe be so. Guess its just the luck of the draw how things happen. Buddy of mine has had his TN kit for the last 3yrs on his Z. Problem free so far and his car is his only means of transportation.
and I know of poeple that blew their motors during the first test drive. all in all, the kit is flawed in numerous ways..... restrictive downpipe, heat soak, turbo seal problems, AC line issues, reflash tunes, etc, etc.

If it were the only kit on the market, so be it. Seeing the many different offerings from SC, twin turbo setups, and single kits, I see absolutely no reason to even consider this kit with what we know and have available today
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
and I know of poeple that blew their motors during the first test drive. all in all, the kit is flawed in numerous ways..... restrictive downpipe, heat soak, turbo seal problems, AC line issues, reflash tunes, etc, etc.

If it were the only kit on the market, so be it. Seeing the many different offerings from SC, twin turbo setups, and single kits, I see absolutely no reason to even consider this kit with what we know and have available today
True, I guess it just comes down to final price. If you can get a TN kit for 3K then go for it. If not then don't bother. I've told people who've asked me about my kit and I tell them unless you're getting a really good deal on it then go with something else. I got my kit with bigger turbo, bigger wastegate, and bigger down pipe with e-cut out for 3K. I was really looking at the powerlab but it wasn't out yet and the cost was going to be 6K.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JS04
True, I guess it just comes down to final price. If you can get a TN kit for 3K then go for it. If not then don't bother. I've told people who've asked me about my kit and I tell them unless you're getting a really good deal on it then go with something else. I got my kit with bigger turbo, bigger wastegate, and bigger down pipe with e-cut out for 3K. I was really looking at the powerlab but it wasn't out yet and the cost was going to be 6K.
even if given to me for free, I would ebay the SOB.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JS04
Maybe be so. Guess its just the luck of the draw how things happen. Buddy of mine has had his TN kit for the last 3yrs on his Z. Problem free so far and his car is his only means of transportation.
how much psi was he running?

and cost is the major issue with me because i have to pay for all my stuff out of pocket and im a life guard soo im not a man of money and could by the TN kit twice because the deal im getting before i could even buy the powerlab kit once.

but the one thing i couldn't deal with is a blown motor. i could deal with all the other stuff like the turbo seals and that but i could not buy a new motor.

even if its tuned to 6.5 psi 10.5 afr and only has 340 whp i don't care it would be alot funner to drive then my 240 hp NA
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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just buy a stillen kit then


read post #41 again
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Here's the deal with Turbonetics: if you're going to run it, DO NOT put a boost controller on it. Run it off of the wastegate spring pressure ONLY. Of course there are going to be those who have had success running 10psi+ and DD'd it with no problem. But why push your luck? With an aftermarket rear section exhaust you should see ~370+whp. Live with that. Don't get greedy. As Jeffie stated, however, if you're concerned about budget, don't turbocharge your Z. There's potential for disaster increases exponentially, even with the best engineered, most efficient, best tuned, babied NA-T car.

PowerLab gets the nod because everything about it shouts efficiency. But even then, all bets are off when building a high compression N/A VQ. You just have to look at is like this: what kit is going to make the power that you will be ok with at the lowest boost? If your motor lets go at any time, do you have the funds to fix it? Answer honestly, then decide..

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
how much psi was he running?

and cost is the major issue with me because i have to pay for all my stuff out of pocket and im a life guard soo im not a man of money and could by the TN kit twice because the deal im getting before i could even buy the powerlab kit once.

but the one thing i couldn't deal with is a blown motor. i could deal with all the other stuff like the turbo seals and that but i could not buy a new motor.

even if its tuned to 6.5 psi 10.5 afr and only has 340 whp i don't care it would be alot funner to drive then my 240 hp NA
A blown motor is pretty much an assumed risk when you go FI on the VQ. Have you thought about a Vortech SC instead? APS ST are also a better designed ST kit than the TN and can be had for around 3k in the B&S (missed my chance ).
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Dude get with Darren at Intense tell them what you are trying to do and he will hook you up. The turbonetics is what it is. All the other kits out there seem to superior in many ways. Dont have to jump on the Powerlabs kit. But a stillen SC or aps Single both very affordable and still not to hard to install. Do what makes sense to you bro. But trust me when investing the money that you are about to invest. Why not make it worth it and get what works. If you got any ?? Hit me up. Jeffie also knows much about Powerlabs kit.
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Originally Posted by Lemans350zTT
Dude get with Darren at Intense tell them what you are trying to do and he will hook you up. I got my Powerlabs GT35R for $---- shipped about 2 months ago. Full kit not the tuner kit. The turbonetics is what it is. All the other kits out there seem to superior in many ways. Dont have to jump on the Powerlabs kit. But a stillen SC or aps Single both very affordable and still not to hard to install. Do what makes sense to you bro. But trust me when investing the money that you are about to invest. Why not make it worth it and get what works. If you got any ?? Hit me up. Jeffie also knows much about Powerlabs kit.
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Posting prices of what you paid when it was clearly a discount or hookup price is always bad. I for one wouldn't sell anything to you again at a discounted price.

Bottom line, the OP clearly doesn't have enough money to go boost. He wants to buy something cheap and use it on his DD.

always a bad idea. unless he has a 2nd car so his main car can sit months on end while trying to get enough money to fix whatever breaks. he really shouldn't do it.
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Originally Posted by jeffie7
Posting prices of what you paid when it was clearly a discount or hookup price is always bad. I for one wouldn't sell anything to you again at a discounted price.

Bottom line, the OP clearly doesn't have enough money to go boost. He wants to buy something cheap and use it on his DD.

always a bad idea. unless he has a 2nd car so his main car can sit months on end while trying to get enough money to fix whatever breaks. he really shouldn't do it.
Not a "hook up price" and offered one when I bought it. Was advertised for anyway. And good thing your not the one that will be selling me things in the future would hate to loose the "hook up price".

Couldnt agree more that he doesnt have the cash flow, nothing wrong with giving a Point of view as many do in this forum day in and day out. And FI on a DD is always a bad idea as you said. Especially without a back up.

Live and Learn as they say. Live and Learn

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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffie7
Posting prices of what you paid when it was clearly a discount or hookup price is always bad. I for one wouldn't sell anything to you again at a discounted price.

Bottom line, the OP clearly doesn't have enough money to go boost. He wants to buy something cheap and use it on his DD.

always a bad idea. unless he has a 2nd car so his main car can sit months on end while trying to get enough money to fix whatever breaks. he really shouldn't do it.

You are right about the Price shoulda kept my mouth shut
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemans350zTT
Not a "hook up price" and offered one when I bought it. Was advertised for 6600 anyway.

Couldnt agree more that he doesnt have the cash flow, nothing wrong with giving a Point of view as many do in this forum day in and day out. And FI on a DD is always a bad idea as you said. Especially without a back up.

Live and Learn as they say. Live and Learn
I have no idea what the current price is, but you made it out as if it was a a really good deal, sounded like they hooked you up.

I work in the food biz and there's nothing I love more then hooking up a someone with a donation only to have it come back to me from someone else, saying, you gave so and so free or discounted items....

I love giving someone food to feed 50-100 people, then having random people come in asking for the same deal, when you say no, they get pissed and leave. In fact just 2 weeks ago it happened, we told someone no on discounting some food and they raised hell in front of about 10 other customers saying how we did it in the past and they know everyone in the area and will spread the word to never eat at our place again, then stormed out....

And good thing your not the one that will be selling me things in the future would hate to loose the "hook up price".
I guess in the end, if you need food to feed 100 people for discounted dirt cheap or free, it's your loss
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffie7
I have no idea what the current price is, but you made it out as if it was a a really good deal, sounded like they hooked you up.

I work in the food biz and there's nothing I love more then hooking up a someone with a donation only to have it come back to me from someone else, saying, you gave so and so free or discounted items....

I love giving someone food to feed 50-100 people, then having random people come in asking for the same deal, when you say no, they get pissed and leave. In fact just 2 weeks ago it happened, we told someone no on discounting some food and they raised hell in front of about 10 other customers saying how we did it in the past and they know everyone in the area and will spread the word to never eat at our place again, then stormed out....



I guess in the end, if you need food to feed 100 people for discounted dirt cheap or free, it's your loss

Im in the car BIZ and I know what it means to give a deal and to crush some one if you can. I edited my post and took the price off. You are very much right dude. I hate having to discount a car to the point of losing my a$$ just to beat a competitor and If I dont beat them then I get the bad rap and lose more potential customers. So again I agree with you 200%
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OP call Intense, tell them your budget and when they say it cant be done. just move on.

Save up and buy a 2nd car.
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