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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Why I was choosing a block I called GTM and after discussing my build with Sam we decided on the stage 0 shortblock for my car. With the gt28rs turbos my car put down 537hp on 93 octane. Plenty of power and I'm real happy with it.

Keep in mind if you're going much over 600whp you're going to need to sleeve the block which adds substantial cost to the build, and that wasn't worth it to me with my goal of having fun daily driver that sees occasional track use.
A lot of people will argue sleeving is debatable up to 800whp ir so.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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A lot of people will argue sleeving is debatable up to 800whp ir so.
XKRs stock sleeve 800whp build had distorted cylinders when they tore it down for inspection after very few miles.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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XKRs stock sleeve 800whp build had distorted cylinders when they tore it down for inspection after very few miles.
D'oh! I stand corrected. Thought I read big, long debates about this.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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yah i dont think thats a arguement to start up lol XKR might have had problems but at the same time hal is running close to 800 on his race gas setup(788 race 744 pump iirc?) with no problems. i dont think enough people are doing it for decisive proof one way or the other.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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lets not turn this thread into sleeve vs non-sleeved thread
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryd87
yah i dont think thats a arguement to start up lol XKR might have had problems but at the same time hal is running close to 800 on his race gas setup(788 race 744 pump iirc?) with no problems. i dont think enough people are doing it for decisive proof one way or the other.

If it was tore down the cylinders might be distorted as well but you right there is not enough evidence either way to provide a solid conclusion.

Like thik dik said this is a turbo kit feed back thread not sleeve debate sorry for the off topic
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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^^you get that pm?


From what I understand, the block can handle the power, but the cyls will move and you'll push coolant. At least thats what my tuners said, and they have plenty of experience with higher hp cars and no reason to ******** me, so I trust them.

At the end of the day the additional cost wasnt worth it for me. But different owners will have different goals with what they want to do with the car. Your best bet is to talk to your tuner/builder and figure out what you're comfortable trying to achieve within your budget. Nothing is ever absolute in this game.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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Thanks I got it I am still on the fence
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by f150intally
How do you vary the boost by gear? Do you have a stand alone?
No stand alone. The HKS boost controller does it. It has different mapping features and I am using the speed mapping. The controller uses one wire to tie onto the vehicle speed sensor wire and the you just set you boost limits to km/h.
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 04:44 AM
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which controller is this? That sounds pretty cool. One other question... does your controller let you set the max boost or are you setting wastegate duty cycle?

EDIT: Nevermind, you set target boost, which is nice.

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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BACK ON TOPIC:
Well, I guess I will give my feedback of this kit. I bought:

GTM HR TT Stage 2 Tuner Kit
Injectors, Fuel Pump, OSIRIS uprev
3" Downpipes and Recirculated WG Tubes
3" GTM Exhaust
OS GIKEN Twin Plate Clutch, HD CSC
Blitz Dual sbc spec s ebc

I have been running for a 2,500 miles so far. I must admit, I did not perform the install but had it installed by Z1 Motorsports in Atlanta. Overall, the fit, finish, and quality of the kit is outstanding. It is a tight fit but it works well. There were a couple very small adjustments to be made to piping, as I understand, but nothing major. I chose to got with recirculated wastegate dumps. This was the only thing that was a pain because it took several weeks to get those parts. Sam and I consciously shipped the kit without the recirc setup knowing that we could ship the downpipes and recirc setup to Z1 when they were complete. This seemed like a good idea but made the install a little more complicated. The Z1 team put everything together outside the car except the downpipes and recirc pipes, and it was a pain for them to do that with the motor back in the car. We should've waited until all parts were in to assemble the the turbos and associated parts on the engine.

I think one pipe was wrong but Sam promptly shipped them a replacement. I ordered black tial BOVs and black silicon hoses and all that was right. I wanted .4 bar wastegate springs and that was correct. Basically, everything was spot on with the order with the exception of the delay for downpipes and recirc tubes...but Sam told me that would take a little longer.

Feedback on the performance, well it speaks for itself. The car put down 527std/517sae on z1's dyno. that was at .8 bar or 11.5psi. I told Jon that is as high as I want to take it. For tuning I bought the OSIRIS uprev from GTM. I got their fuel/ecu package. I want to take a minute to discuss the ROM file that Sam sent. Jon tuned quite a bit at WOT, the tune was fairly rich. That is to be expected when you are shipping ROM files. But the part throttle tuning performed by Jon was very little if any. It was pretty much spot on straight from Sam.

I think it is safe to say that overall, I would definitely recommend this kit to anyone looking to TT the HR motor. This thing spools very fast and makes full boost around 4000 rpm or so, maybe a little after.

Feel free to ask any questions you might have. It took a while to assemble and ship my complete order, but be patient. You would rather it be right, right?
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Old Mar 10, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by f150intally
which controller is this? That sounds pretty cool. One other question... does your controller let you set the max boost or are you setting wastegate duty cycle?

EDIT: Nevermind, you set target boost, which is nice.
its the HKS EVC 6

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I just bought TT GTM Stage 2 kit with GTM engine management.
Will I need to tune this GTM engine management or maybe Sam can tune this engine management ( for 100 octan fuel ) and send it to me ?
I am from Europe and here is difficult to find someone who can tune this engine mamagement :/
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by andyone
I just bought TT GTM Stage 2 kit with GTM engine management.
Will I need to tune this GTM engine management or maybe Sam can tune this engine management ( for 100 octan fuel ) and send it to me ?
I am from Europe and here is difficult to find someone who can tune this engine mamagement :/
will email/mail tuning are never 100%. try to look for a local dyno tuner, who either have experience with reflashing ecu's "since UPREV is a reflash" or look for a standalone tuner with enough experience to deal with an NA to FI conversion, and buy a proper standalone. email tune will be a good base tune, but never do that for high octane or high boost.

good luck anyway mate.
hope it goes will.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by andyone
I just bought TT GTM Stage 2 kit with GTM engine management.
Will I need to tune this GTM engine management or maybe Sam can tune this engine management ( for 100 octan fuel ) and send it to me ?
I am from Europe and here is difficult to find someone who can tune this engine mamagement :/

you must have dyno and tuner for max performance!
in Europe we have also different ron, octane ect

my tuner is uprev dealer (thanks to Sam) and i know he goes in foreign countries for tune cars... so i think he can get in Poland
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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What software I need to tune GTM engine management ?
Where I can find the map on which I can start engine and start tune ?
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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I would contact Sam at GTM for a base map " Just mention the octane rating" to make sure you are running safe at least. software that is widely use on most of the updated kits such as GTM is UPREV. it's basically a cable with a software CD "software available online for free" it reflashes the ECU....
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fla350tt
No stand alone. The HKS boost controller does it. It has different mapping features and I am using the speed mapping. The controller uses one wire to tie onto the vehicle speed sensor wire and the you just set you boost limits to km/h.
Did not know that
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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I have read Osiris FAQ and I have question.
Do I need buy this Software to tune my engine management ?
And the engine management from GTM is stand alone or it works like piggyback?
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