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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:05 AM
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ok this thread has been updated to dreamer status... i'm out
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by abui01
Stillen > Vortech. Life isn't always about power potential, it's the delivery of the power, the design of the unit, and the efficiency. If you're going to DD it, I suggest getting a Stillen and not have too many headaches to worry about. Vortech will have bugs here and there.

Make sure to have a few extra belts just incase something snaps. An extra 10k would be handy as well. Keep in mind you're putting something on an engine that was never meant to be there; there will always be little kinks to work out and extra dollars to spend. However, I wouldn't go so far as to "budget build" my car. In the end, you're going to be spending at least 10k. You're setting yourself up for disappointments and shortage of cash if you limit yourself at 6k.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by XKR
Maybe Doug did not see this post.
he been here since 05.. i thought he was being sarcastic.. i mean no one would be that stupid to be serious right? right?
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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^^Ahh Yess id love to unleash the power on the dam cocky drivers

Only if our car had stock turbo like sti but too bad it only came with 300z

Alright well to be more clear with everyone I am planning on going with the Supercahrger route not turbo so i am not looking at the extra stuff you need for turbo. Im a newbie so sorry if i mess somethings up, I am talking about UTEC etc..( iwouldnt think i need them

I would be looking at either vortech or the powerlab kit probably, living in Cali i dont want to risk getting caught with a turbo on my car.

Also I understand some people get offended when using "budget" and "F/I" because something can go wrong, that is true but ideally speaking... Do I really need to upgrade my clutch for that amount of power? I have asked some people on the forums and it seems that 380-400 seems the most reliable anything more than that is basically pushing ot along with how much boost you run.

If I am able to buy a Supercharger kit for 5-6k new and have a shop install it id be looking at close to 7k tops. I have asked around different shops as well knowing that they have worked in and out of the Z's and G's.. they told me that the setup id be wanting to go for is pretty reliable. One of the shops was Stillen and I know i can trust them working on my car whether or not i get a supercahrger from them.. Sorry if antyhing is mispelled its late rigth now
^ WTF ^

FYI... The PowerLab kit is a single turbo kit.

Like the others, I don't think your budget is realistic.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
^ WTF ^

FYI... The PowerLab kit is a single turbo kit.

Like the others, I don't think your budget is realistic.
that and the fact he doesn't want to get caught with a turbo under his hood but chooses a Vortech? Vortech has that big *** hair dryer than can be mistaken for a Turbo.. if you think appearance is your issue.. then the Vortech isn't helping either.. Vortech isn't CARB legal either
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gennosuke1
^^Ahh Yess id love to unleash the power on the dam cocky drivers

Only if our car had stock turbo like sti but too bad it only came with 300z

Alright well to be more clear with everyone I am planning on going with the Supercahrger route not turbo so i am not looking at the extra stuff you need for turbo. Im a newbie so sorry if i mess somethings up, I am talking about UTEC etc..( iwouldnt think i need them

I would be looking at either vortech or the powerlab kit probably, living in Cali i dont want to risk getting caught with a turbo on my car.

Also I understand some people get offended when using "budget" and "F/I" because something can go wrong, that is true but ideally speaking... Do I really need to upgrade my clutch for that amount of power? I have asked some people on the forums and it seems that 380-400 seems the most reliable anything more than that is basically pushing ot along with how much boost you run.

If I am able to buy a Supercharger kit for 5-6k new and have a shop install it id be looking at close to 7k tops. I have asked around different shops as well knowing that they have worked in and out of the Z's and G's.. they told me that the setup id be wanting to go for is pretty reliable. One of the shops was Stillen and I know i can trust them working on my car whether or not i get a supercahrger from them.. Sorry if antyhing is mispelled its late rigth now
ok u have alot of research to do i realize from ur last post..a utec is a ems which a ems is needed weather u go turbo or supercharged whether its utec, haltech, f-con, ss box, vipec, etc, etc, etc.....u need something to control ur engine, and a powerlab kit is a turbo kit and is out of ur budget, stillen is a low numbers kit and u wont be happy with it, vortech has a complete kit that has fmu, ss box and everything u need to get up and running that seems to fit ur "budget" the most...u could do a complete vortech kit and get the 3.12 pulley which is 9psi and keep ur stock internals and just have the ss box re-tuned conservatively at around 380-390whp on a dynojet
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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yes vortech is carb legal far as i know..at least mine has a c.a.r.b. sticker on it
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Vortech is CARB legal...even in California...

Although its questionable if the Vortech is still legal after the mods most of us make (Walbro, Injectors, smaller pulley, etc), those things can be hidden, somewhat...

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yes vortech is carb legal far as i know..at least mine has a c.a.r.b. sticker on it
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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cali guys are getting away with going with the 3.12 pulley cause it really looks no different than the 3.33, the 2.87 is questionable but as far as running the 3.12 pulley he can run it on stock internals and just a complete vortech kit which has the fmu and ss box and inline pump to add fuel pressure...a complete vortech kit with 3.12 pulley and retuned ss box really seems to be his closest shot imo and totally carb legal and inspectable and if he did it himself and then just had it retuned could be in the 6k range

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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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but like the question op stated before about clutch and flywheel...yes absolutely needed, as well as one step colder plugs, and synthetic oil ur gonna need to buy and filter for the install and gauges which imo are a necessity ..at least a/f and boost gauge, im sure theres more im tired...but things add up
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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my appologies.. i thought only Stillen was Carb legal.. now i feel its even dumber to buy a Stillen Kit if CARB is your issue.. because the Vortech is..
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by doug
he been here since 05.. i thought he was being sarcastic.. i mean no one would be that stupid to be serious right? right?
True !!
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by doug
Vortech has that big *** hair dryer than can be mistaken for a Turbo..
LOL...big *** hair dryer...soo true...
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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CARB legal or not you still have to get past the sniffer. That means stock cats and pretty much every thing else fuel/tune related.

In cali you either need to have a hookup or just get a weaksauce stillen lol.
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by djamps
CARB legal or not you still have to get past the sniffer. That means stock cats and pretty much every thing else fuel/tune related.

In cali you either need to have a hookup or just get a weaksauce stillen lol.
Or just stay stock and keep dreaming
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by djamps
CARB legal or not you still have to get past the sniffer. That means stock cats and pretty much every thing else fuel/tune related.

In cali you either need to have a hookup or just get a weaksauce stillen lol.

why wouldnt high flow cats or test pipes with defoulers get u passed that if u had someone to look the other way on the visual aspect of things, as long as ur tuned and at the right a/f i dont see what would be wrong, but im not familiar with other states...i get hooked up through my obd port for inspection and as long as no codes im good to go, which to date have never thrown a code..knock on wood..
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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lotts of vortechs running around cali on here not sure what there supporting mods are though, and yeah the stillen is garbage and very weak, especially the carb legal ones, and then once u try to get a little power out of it, its not carb legal anymore..what a waste of money on those kits
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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sorry about the technical stuff i am not too sure about. Shops have told me that the SC kits all come with what i need so i thought it would come with ems or w/e

if that doesnt make sense its jsut me being a newb talk.

Vortech is carb legal thats why i was wanting to go with it or esle i wouldve got a turbo.

My main concern is not about the test, if just about the troops. If someone every decides to take a look under i want to justify that carb sticker so they cant do anything

Sorry my bad i thought powerlab also made a Supercharger...

Should i make a another thread intended for vortech owners input or can you all just say it on here.

A lot of boosted z or g people i know have not upgraded their clutch/flywheel.

Even with that much power i still need to change? at least the setup seem pretty reliable right? at least this is my outlook from looking at others.

so even if i buy the kit doesnt the vortech come with everything i need? i can ask the shop to install it and tune for about 1k so id be looking as high as 7k..
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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oh yes one more someone linked me on here for the aps twins and it said carb legeal whats up with that? ill see if i can dig up the link again
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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you don't need another thread.. BTW no turbo kit is CARB Legal

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...hlight=Vortech
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