Brian Crower 4.15L + APS Extreme Turbo Kit Build
01-18-2011, 03:39 PM
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Yeah 
300 each sure does sound a lot better. I would of loved to had paid that instead
Hmm, that is pretty interesting. I didn't get a chance to ask what the obstruction was or the cause of it. If I get a chance, I will try to just to see if there is any idea what why it would have been there. On another note, I appreciate the help with the questions I had on the fuel system man. I know what I need to do when I upgrade the fuel down the road
As for updates, the turbos came back in. Now, we just have to get them mounted back up and I have to try to fight for dyno time ha. I am anxious to see if this fixes all of the issue.
Also, if you guys have facebook, could you please click on this link:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...399191&theater
I am wanting you to like the picture of my car. If you do not see a like button, click on TWM's profile and then like it at the top of the page. You can then hit back on your browser and like the picture of my car. I am trying to win a free shortshifter!
I appreciate it guys. Updates will come as soon as I get them!
300 each sure does sound a lot better. I would of loved to had paid that insteadHmm, that is pretty interesting. I didn't get a chance to ask what the obstruction was or the cause of it. If I get a chance, I will try to just to see if there is any idea what why it would have been there. On another note, I appreciate the help with the questions I had on the fuel system man. I know what I need to do when I upgrade the fuel down the road
As for updates, the turbos came back in. Now, we just have to get them mounted back up and I have to try to fight for dyno time ha. I am anxious to see if this fixes all of the issue.
Also, if you guys have facebook, could you please click on this link:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...399191&theater
I am wanting you to like the picture of my car. If you do not see a like button, click on TWM's profile and then like it at the top of the page. You can then hit back on your browser and like the picture of my car. I am trying to win a free shortshifter!
I appreciate it guys. Updates will come as soon as I get them!
I love my TWM SS & Shift boot btw!
01-18-2011, 09:42 PM
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Hmm, did you like their profile page first? I know you have to do that first to be able to like the picture.
How much did the short shifter run you?
How much did the short shifter run you?
01-19-2011, 06:39 PM
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Alright guys, good news. There were no problems with the car! Finally good to hear that. However, I ran out of fuel injectors lol.
After some quick teasing from Hal and Eddie, I was giving my dyno plot:
I think they said this was at 16psi. Hal said that he tried higher boost and that the injectors would go lean a little over 6k rpm. He gave me two options, finish up the tune with these injectors or upgrade the fuel system and finish the tuning on higher injectors.
The 514 shown is before any extreme tuning was done, it is a very conservative tune. I am not exactly sure what I am going to do yet. They are coming up with some fueling options for me and then I will either keep these injectors or upgrade and tune for more power.
If I keep these, the final number may be 515 or somewhere higher. I will update once all is decided lol. But again, it is nice to know all of the problems are fixed!
This was on pump gas, 93 octane
After some quick teasing from Hal and Eddie, I was giving my dyno plot:
I think they said this was at 16psi. Hal said that he tried higher boost and that the injectors would go lean a little over 6k rpm. He gave me two options, finish up the tune with these injectors or upgrade the fuel system and finish the tuning on higher injectors.
The 514 shown is before any extreme tuning was done, it is a very conservative tune. I am not exactly sure what I am going to do yet. They are coming up with some fueling options for me and then I will either keep these injectors or upgrade and tune for more power.
If I keep these, the final number may be 515 or somewhere higher. I will update once all is decided lol. But again, it is nice to know all of the problems are fixed!
This was on pump gas, 93 octane
01-19-2011, 07:07 PM
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I did click their profile.
I think it was 260 I'll have to look at my receipt. Well worth it. I later got the blue stitched shift boot using the 10 loyalty/review money they give back. Also very nice.
Congratulations!
I think it was 260 I'll have to look at my receipt. Well worth it. I later got the blue stitched shift boot using the 10 loyalty/review money they give back. Also very nice.
Congratulations!
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01-19-2011, 07:37 PM
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so you are pretty much back to post #77 from 11-30-10.
Realistically, if you dont plan on running E85 or race gas, thats a pretty good stopping point. I'd throw a set of PTE 1200s in there though to give yourself a little more headroom and make it to your 600whp goal.
KInda surprised how the trq dives after 4800 rpms. That seems pretty crazy considering the displacement, heads, and BC2 cams. I'm sure that can be tuned more though like you mentioned
Realistically, if you dont plan on running E85 or race gas, thats a pretty good stopping point. I'd throw a set of PTE 1200s in there though to give yourself a little more headroom and make it to your 600whp goal.
KInda surprised how the trq dives after 4800 rpms. That seems pretty crazy considering the displacement, heads, and BC2 cams. I'm sure that can be tuned more though like you mentioned
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01-20-2011, 08:32 PM
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I have been going over possible ways I can fit into my funding an upgrade lol. I think for the time being I am going to have to keep these injectors. I am in the process of applying for pharmacy school, so once that is sorted out I should have enough funds to get something else.
I really want to switch to E85. Hal is going to sit down and try to come up with some different options/routes I could go.
I would like to keep the APS fuel rails, change the regulators to a single one, modify the venturi system in the APS drop in, then get some bigger injectors. I would really like to go with the ID2000s, but that is really out of my budget right now. ID1000 are looking like the next options. I am heading down to the shop tomorrow to talk to Hal and see what his thoughts are on this. He is also going to finish up tuning tomorrow so I will be able to post a final dyno plot.
I am really glad that there are no other issues. It is the first time in a long time that I have some ease on my brain, but now all I can think about are injectors lol.
I will see what I can come up with and hopefully sooner than later I will be able to see how big of a difference some larger injectors are!
I really want to switch to E85. Hal is going to sit down and try to come up with some different options/routes I could go.
I would like to keep the APS fuel rails, change the regulators to a single one, modify the venturi system in the APS drop in, then get some bigger injectors. I would really like to go with the ID2000s, but that is really out of my budget right now. ID1000 are looking like the next options. I am heading down to the shop tomorrow to talk to Hal and see what his thoughts are on this. He is also going to finish up tuning tomorrow so I will be able to post a final dyno plot.
I am really glad that there are no other issues. It is the first time in a long time that I have some ease on my brain, but now all I can think about are injectors lol.
I will see what I can come up with and hopefully sooner than later I will be able to see how big of a difference some larger injectors are!
01-21-2011, 06:13 AM
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no reason to get ID1000s or 2000s. for ~450$ you can get PTE1200s from Injected. Thats what I used to make 900DD on C16.
That APS fuel system is pretty funky and in the end will probably be cheaper and more relaible to just dump it for a big single pump or a CJM or SP multi pump option.
That APS fuel system is pretty funky and in the end will probably be cheaper and more relaible to just dump it for a big single pump or a CJM or SP multi pump option.
01-21-2011, 10:13 AM
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Yeah I have some thinking to do. I'm heading down to dynosty now to talk it over with them.
Final numbers! On 16.5psi. Redline at 7500 due to fuel limitation.
Final numbers! On 16.5psi. Redline at 7500 due to fuel limitation.
01-21-2011, 11:01 AM
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Yeah there are more plans, but I can't get any more boost until I upgrade my fuel system. That's the only limiting factor. There is room for a lot more. Especially with something other than pump gas.
01-21-2011, 02:05 PM
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I think I figured out the fuel system. I am pretty sure the route will be some ID1000cc injectors, an aeromotive regulator and a different set of high flow fuel rails. With the ID1000, I don't think I will have to modify the drop in tank which is nice.
This will provide some good fueling for the time being and later down the road when I have some extra cash, I will be able to drop in the ID2000's and just change the tuning.
Hal was telling me that he upped the boost just to see what it would do. Power continued to rise, but towards higher RPM is was leaning out. However, he was saying a lot is left. He was seeing about a 40hp gain per pound of boost he upped. Of course there is no way to say how long that would be constant for, but it is a great sign knowing that I have not maxed out pump fuel yet, as long as I get bigger injectors.
New injectors should be coming soon. I need to get an alignment, and then I will try to come together with the fuel upgrade. Hal doesn't want me to take the car out yet, because he says once I do I won't want any more power!
As usual, I will keep updating as I go. I am just very excited I am problem free now. It is a huge relief. I want to thank Hal and Eddie for all of the work and help they have provided and also everyone else that has helped me along the road, especially Stephen. It is truly appreciated and I am forever in debt to you all!
Yeah, should be interesting to drive. Especially with the power coming in so soon. It made more torque than Hal's car on pump. I need to ask him, but I am not sure what it made on WG pressure. That is what I will normally be driving it around on. Should still be pretty rough though. It will take me quite a while to learn to drive it. Have to learn 6speed and new power. I am anxious though. I cannot wait for the snow to go away so I can actually take it out on the street.
This will provide some good fueling for the time being and later down the road when I have some extra cash, I will be able to drop in the ID2000's and just change the tuning.
Hal was telling me that he upped the boost just to see what it would do. Power continued to rise, but towards higher RPM is was leaning out. However, he was saying a lot is left. He was seeing about a 40hp gain per pound of boost he upped. Of course there is no way to say how long that would be constant for, but it is a great sign knowing that I have not maxed out pump fuel yet, as long as I get bigger injectors.
New injectors should be coming soon. I need to get an alignment, and then I will try to come together with the fuel upgrade. Hal doesn't want me to take the car out yet, because he says once I do I won't want any more power!
As usual, I will keep updating as I go. I am just very excited I am problem free now. It is a huge relief. I want to thank Hal and Eddie for all of the work and help they have provided and also everyone else that has helped me along the road, especially Stephen. It is truly appreciated and I am forever in debt to you all!
Yeah, should be interesting to drive. Especially with the power coming in so soon. It made more torque than Hal's car on pump. I need to ask him, but I am not sure what it made on WG pressure. That is what I will normally be driving it around on. Should still be pretty rough though. It will take me quite a while to learn to drive it. Have to learn 6speed and new power. I am anxious though. I cannot wait for the snow to go away so I can actually take it out on the street.
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01-22-2011, 10:04 PM
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I am running the RPS max clutch and RPS flywheel. Nope, I just have the full APS extreme fuel system.
I got to drive the car today! Man, the alignment was shot to hell. Drove it straight to the alignment shop. On the way back to Dynosty, I got on it a bit in third. It probably hit about 3 pounds of boost and went sideways like crazy. It was 24 degrees outside. I cannot wait until warmer weather gets here!
Dynosty is going to look over everything once again and I should be taking it home on Monday as long as we don't have any snow. I then get to start putting all the interior pieces back together and cleaning up the rest of the car.
Thanks again to Hal and Eddie and Dynosty. If anyone needs anything, I truly recommend these guys. They are awesome people and know their stuff! Thumbs up from me, that is for sure.