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View Poll Results: Are you having problems with your ATI SC?
I am totally free trouble free of problems with my SC.
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33.33%
I am trouble free of problems with my SC but I am concerned with engine failure thus don’t rev the motor to high rpm’s or drive it has hard as I would prefer.
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20.83%
I have had problems with my SC related to belts only.
0
0%
I have had problems with my SC related to the SC unit only such as leaking, noise, or vibration.
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4.17%
I have had minor/easily fixable installation issues related to my SC. Please post below to verify those issues.
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8.33%
I am experiencing knocking and/or detonation issues.
3
12.50%
I have experienced engine failure.
1
4.17%
Other, please post those issues below.
4
16.67%
I have experienced pully problems.
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0%
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ATI owners – Please state if your SC kit is trouble free or not in this poll

Old Nov 25, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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Default ATI owners – Please state if your SC kit is trouble free or not in this poll

Many of us have read hundreds of posts regarding the ATI SC kit and debates have occurred regarding how reliable it is to own.

Daking350 started a thread that lists we have over 25 members on this site that own an ATI SC. Others own the kit from other sites including G35 owners.

I have spoken to Daking350 through several pm’s discussing how this list of ATI SC owners can be useful to people on my350z.com. We felt that creating a poll to determine the real number of people that are having a trouble free experience owning an ATI SC vs. those that are having problems would be useful. We can at least end the debate on how many problems are occurring and be able to determine the extent of those problems. Hopefully, this poll will eliminate terms like “a lot of ATI SC owners are having problems” and/or “very few owners are having problems”. I read all of the current threads regarding ATI SC’ers and tried to outline all options that might be included in this poll. If I omitted an option, please state so and forgive me in advance for the oversight.

I hope this information clears the air on these issues. Hopefully with the work of Jesse and others, future problems will be reduced and possibly current problems will be fixed without a good chance of reoccurring.

Thanks for participating in the poll….

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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You should've made it a poll where you could choose multiple things. Some people might have problems with belts and detonation for example. Otherwise the results will be skewed.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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Jesse:

You are 100% correct. I thought I had thought of everything but sometimes it takes others to see glowing omissions. Sorry.

I dont think I can modify it now. Administrator, please change the poll to reflect Jesse's suggestion, it is a good one.

Jesse, FYI, I am currently pm'ing every administrator on this forum to try and get them to modify the poll to include your suggestion.

thanks,

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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I am also suggesting moderators add an option so readers can select:

I have experiened pulley problems.

Thanks again to Jesse for both suggestions.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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Default I did not buy the ATI

Because what happened to Max, ravaz, and others scared the crap out of me. I could have afforded a procharger, but decided to go N/A after reading about holes blown in pistons here.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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Perhaps you can ask people to vote for their most serious problem, if you're not able to get more options added
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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EJ, good suggestion. For those posting before the moderators can get to changing the post to multible selections, please pick the most serious problem you might have if there are more than one. You might even post multible problems if you have them.

Hopefully, a moderator will fix the poll before most people take the poll anyways...

Good night everyone, Jeff - zland
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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I voted one time, I chose other. If it were multiple choice I would have checked the following numbers.

1. 5. and 7.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 03:35 AM
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I think you guys are going a bit overboard with all this. I don't know how many times one thing can be discussed, but it seems that in every thread on this board, ok every other thread, it's the same thing over and over.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by ravaz
I think you guys are going a bit overboard with all this. I don't know how many times one thing can be discussed, but it seems that in every thread on this board, ok every other thread, it's the same thing over and over.
I have to disagree ...... I love my procharger and would have sold my Z if I hadn't purchased it. I however think, since it is obvious that ATI visits and reads this post they should know all the problems even satisfied customers are having.

I am hoping that ATI makes some changes in how they train and promote authorized installers. I am also hoping they sell a kit that is really complete with the safety items that are needed to prevent the possibility of total failure. I would like to see them either do a recall to make it right or provide us poor fools who were lead to believe their product was safe if we didn't mod our system, with the proper items to make it that way.

I will be the first to admit that so far all my problems have been fixable and are directly related to how their authorized and trained dealer did the install. Yet now with their new tech alert am scared to even drive the car. Let get real .. how can they sell a product ment to make the car go faster and then after months of use come out and tell us we really can't. Things like don't hit the rev limiter, don't feather the trottle, don't use your traction control, don't use your stock plugs, don't let the car slide sideway and so on.

I don't think any of the 25 procharger owners on this forum could in good conscience recommend this product even to an enemy!
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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i totally agree with you ravaz. will the other SC companies go through the same amount of flaming if something goes wrong with someones car? this topic is getting way out of hand. i know some people that don't even like coming to the boards anymore because of all the flaming. it gets old quick.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by daddy Z
I however think, since it is obvious that ATI visits and reads this post they should know all the problems even satisfied customers are having.
Uhh, I think they get the idea about the problems by now. And if a satisfied customer is having problems, then how are they satisfied?

I am hoping that ATI makes some changes in how they train and promote authorized installers.
For the record, they don't have authorized installers. They have dealers that sell their product.

I would like to see them either do a recall to make it right or provide us poor fools who were lead to believe their product was safe if we didn't mod our system, with the proper items to make it that way.
Not going to happen..

Let get real .. how can they sell a product ment to make the car go faster and then after months of use come out and tell us we really can't. Things like don't hit the rev limiter, don't feather the trottle, don't use your traction control, don't use your stock plugs, don't let the car slide sideway and so on.
You should know not to hit the rev limiter, that's common sense. Even with a stock Z, you shouldn't hit the rev limiter, it cuts fuel, also, you should know not to use stock plugs, besides, all this info is on page 5 and 60 of the manual. It's right there, open it up and read it. I guess for months, it's been staring you in the face.

Every thread about ATI or Superchargers or Turbos etc.. is the same on this board. That's all I'm saying. It's a bunch of crying and repeating. You people wonder why ATI doesn't want to come here and post anything too.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 06:49 AM
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The purpose of this thread is not to go over the issues another time, we have done that. It is to acutally get numbers of how many problems are occuring so we stop arguing that issue. We have posted hundreds of posts yet that simple fact is not clearified. That is the purpose. Until now, no one knows the percentages of totally happy customers vs minor probles vs significant problems.

I feel this poll will make it very clear to all what those numbers are.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Suggestion for a poll that might get more attention from ATI, installers, and potential customers:

1. Do you feel you had enough information to make an informed purchase?
2. Do you feel your installer was properly equipped (tools and information) to install and support your installation?
3. Do you feel dyno tuning is necessary for the ProCharger installation?
4. Would you select a different manufacturer for FI if you were to do it all over?
5. Do you plan on changing to another form of FI even though you have a large investment in your ATI install?
6. Are you satisfied with your ATI ProCharger?
7. Would you recommend the ATI ProCharger to other Z and G owners?
8. Would you considering legal action to resolve your issues with your ProCharger installation?
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Excellent suggestion BlownG.....can i suggest one more?

9. Has ATI been in contact with you and made some promises to avoid legal action?
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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BlownG:

Excellent idea on a poll. I suggest you make a poll with those issues. Basically it seems like we are doing two different type of polls.

Mine has to do with measuring the status of problems related to owners ATI kits. Yours has to do with kind of a JD Powell customer satisfaction survey. Both are valid tools.

Too bad all companies dont do these themselves rather than us having to do it but either way, as long as the data helps out, it is all positive.

I am trying (as well as others) to turn all of these discussions into data that will improve all products including ATI otherwise, it is just a bunch of arguing which helps no one.

Jeff - zland

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Originally posted by ravaz
For the record, they don't have authorized installers. They have dealers that sell their product.Superchargers or Turbos et
not sure how you know this unless you work for them or are at least on their payroll.

I know for a fact that they trained at least one mechanic from Grubbs Infiniti who thinks he has been authorized by ATI to install prochargers on Z's G's and FX's. I know also for a fact that Grubbs Infiniti provided ATI both the G and FX that ATI used as their prototype. I also know for a fact that Grubbs Infiniti is representing themselves as an authorized dealer/ installer.

maybe you need to get back to your employeer and let them know about this oversight.

I am also curious .... when did you go from slamming ATI on a regular basis to now singing their praises ?????
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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Haha, on their payroll. That's right, I forgot, I work for ATI..
I'll be sure to speak with my employer about this, my mistake.

I never slammed the ATI kit, at most I might have said the FMU isn't the best thing in the world, and if there is a timing issue then sure they should look into it, I mean, my employer should look into it....... I slammed Altered Atmosphere, not ATI.

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