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Old 12-05-2003, 03:57 PM
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I was wondering about the intercooler. There sure are a lot of pipes going everywhere on that engine dyno. I'm guessing there is an intercooler of some sort down below that we can't see? I can see a tube coming up from the floor into the intake plenum. I'm guessing the intercooling system is down there somewhere.
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I imagine some people would be thinking that the cost is high, however consider this: Engine removed, thoroughly rebuilt to exacting standards, custom rods and pistons, a $6000 MoTeC ECU (with launch control, data logging etc), two ball bearing turbos, front mount, intake, clutch, exhaust, custom intake and exhaust manifold...and so it goes. In other words, it's a very serious package that would, for the most part, fit the mould of a factory kit.

As previously stated, it drives like a standard car, but with the throttle nailed blows the doors off virtually anything on the road.

Not that a 1/4 mile has been run as yet, however using the dreamwheel (Moroso calculator), the theoretical is a 10.8 @ 125. Remember, the car is a manual and is not set up for drags, so it would not achieve a 10.8, however the mph is achievable.
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Originally posted by Nizpro
a $6000 MoTeC ECU (with launch control, data logging etc)

Holy moly! I had no idea the Motec was that expensive.

Out of curiosity, what sort of boost pressure are you running? Perhaps 1 bar?
Old 12-05-2003, 06:34 PM
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That is really awesome, my dream; before I get too fibble outstanding!

I suppose your taxes must be super high; blame the British. Just about every country that the British colanized has a strangling excise duty for imported cars.

Definitely, love your zee.

Thanks for sharing.

Gerald
Old 12-05-2003, 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by Nizpro
I imagine some people would be thinking that the cost is high, however consider this: Engine removed, thoroughly rebuilt to exacting standards, custom rods and pistons, a $6000 MoTeC ECU (with launch control, data logging etc), two ball bearing turbos, front mount, intake, clutch, exhaust, custom intake and exhaust manifold...and so it goes. In other words, it's a very serious package that would, for the most part, fit the mould of a factory kit.

As previously stated, it drives like a standard car, but with the throttle nailed blows the doors off virtually anything on the road.

Not that a 1/4 mile has been run as yet, however using the dreamwheel (Moroso calculator), the theoretical is a 10.8 @ 125. Remember, the car is a manual and is not set up for drags, so it would not achieve a 10.8, however the mph is achievable.
Y'all need to open up a shop here in the U.S. Pay less and make more $$$
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hey Nizpro..will yall be selling this kit to us in the the U.S.!?!?!?
if so what would be the pricing on this beast?..could you tell us how many psi its running, and how much more it could handle?
Old 12-05-2003, 09:48 PM
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I want to see a video of some sort...c'mon mate...post that sucka
Old 12-06-2003, 09:37 AM
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Aussie Aussie Aussie Oye Oye Oye! Nice job.
When I read the title 'Aussie Twin Turbo 350Z' I thought someone did an rb26 engine swap in a Z


Yes some things in Australia are expensive, HOWEVER, you can pickup a GTS Skyline for under 20k AUSTRALIAN dollars [14k US], or a GTR for 70k AUSTRALIAN dollars [40K US]. I won't even mention the VL calais.

And yet I live in the US I miss home, but I really love it here.
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Boost is actually 15 psi or just over 1 bar.

As to sellin the product in the US, we would love to find a dealer who was interested in doing so. Obviously if this was the case, and we were supplyin straight bolt on kits (lower boost would be expected and say around 430 hp), the price would probably at least be halved.

I say, anyone wanting to put their hand up, drop me a line.
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why lower boost?! are you sayin jus the kit and not the fully built motor like the one you have with the custom rods, pistons,etc...jus selling us like a basic kit?
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Or you can get the $100k kit for a few bucks more.......
Old 12-06-2003, 07:57 PM
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z33boi: Realistically, running higher boost with an otherwise stock engine is potentially asking for trouble. Remember, in our example we drop the comp slightly, and thanks to the forged pistons and careful tuning, we can run 15 psi (or a little more if some jungle juice was required for the race track).

Just a thought about cost. Let's forget what a Z costs and for that matter what our package cost. That we're talking about a Nissan - does it really matter? As in, if it were a Porsche that by comparison was equipped with a $120,000 upgrade package, would that make it any more attractive.

Okay, so looking at AUD, for $100,000 there's virtually noting of any substance available in Australia, up the ante to in excess of $200,000 and you're just starting to find some real performance. However to achieve the performance level we are talking about, you are looking at five to six times the cost of the Nissan.

Also consider this possibility. Should Nissan have created this package and therefore offered a car with Lamborghini Murciélago performance, do you really think they would do so for AUD$100,000? I think not! Same applies to USD, would they offer a car of this calibre for say US$65,000. Once again I think not. I think this puts things more in perspective.

And hey, what's what with the Nissan name anyway!
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Just wondering one thing. Did you do any work to the block, like sleeves or a solid deck? I'm not sure if you answered that to me already in our emails.

Thanks,
Bill
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Originally posted by Nizpro
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Okay, so looking at AUD, for $100,000 there's virtually nothing of any substance available in Australia, up the ante to in excess of $200,000 and you're just starting to find some real performance. However to achieve the performance level we are talking about, you are looking at five to six times the cost of the Nissan.

. . . Same applies to USD, would they offer a car of this calibre for say US$65,000. Once again I think not. I think this puts things more in perspective.
Two points:

1) Since we've brought up the theoretical possibility of selling this kit in the U.S. w/ lower boost & stock internals: 1) There may not be anything else in Australia that can achieve the performance of your custom TT 350Z without spending wads of cash, but there are many possibilities in the U.S. . . . namely, the 2005 Z06 Corvette (500+ whp), the soon to be available 2004-2005 supercharged mustang (new retro styling w/ est. 400-500 whp), not to mention the fact that there are at least 6 aftermarket FI kits in the U.S. available or soon to be available for the 350Z (ATI, STillen, Vortech, GReddy TT, PE TT, Dreamworkes).

2) If Nissan wanted to develop and market a TT version of the 350Z w/ upgraded internals--rods, pistons, crank, valves, valvesprings, rocker arms, ECU etc, I do think it would sell for around $50,000-$60,000 USD. The cost would go into parts, but not so much labor, as they would have to assemble the engine anyway, whether they're using stronger pistons etc or the stock ones. Plus, this would put this theoretical from-the-factory Nissan TT 350Z up against the soon to be available new corvette and mustang, each of which will have new body styling and each of which will easily produce 400-500 hp.
Old 12-07-2003, 10:12 AM
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Wow I like the setup... I coulndn't even tell it was modified at all!

You guys don't happen to know or are affiliated with the GTR-700 project?

Most importantly, I'd like to see some long term tests. I'm not sure how long the tranny will last during extensive race conditions. I'm sure it'll be fine if it's a "once in awhile" thing.
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