bmccann101

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Hello all..
Totaly new to the FI world, cars being built now.
Albeit i trust my shop, they are closed right now...and i like to still do my own research too.



Just curious of anyone else using a specific EBC over another.



SO the Osiris they will be using will have maps for all sorts of gas types and HP curves etc.. Powerlab single turbo stage 2 FI, probably a large turbo... Tial BOV, Full crower built engine at 8.5:1, 1200 cc DW injectors, dual fuel pumps etc.. so they are looking to make some pretty big power... and thats of course something i wont need often.
Ill happily take 400 rwhp for my daily pump gas map.


i added all that so we can move past replies requiring basic details on my set up.

SO my question is this.. w the 5 maps i can do w my Uprev, would it stand to reason id need an EBC to align difference boost curves w these maps...or am i missing something.

Again, total FI noob disclaimer.. done some searching, done some reading.

Just curious of anyone else using a specific EBC over another.

HKS EVC is spendy, so are a few others.

What do i need to make sure to look for..

thanks Vets.

blueper4mancez

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hks is expensive but well worthy , you're going to use 1200cc injectors dual fuel pumps . why stopt at 400 whp ?

bmccann101

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wont be... im sure it will end up around 6-700 rwhp.
Its the same build as the 906 rwhp g35 aside from the pro efi.
But its my daily driver at the moment, so no, i wont be using anywhere near that during the week.
Ill buy something else soon, but for now, 400 rwhp is fine.

SO im curious tho.. what MAKES the hks worth it? Kinda what im looking to find out.. what should i look for etc etc.

thatv35guy

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Honestly, I'd look into getting the ProEFI EMS for your car... I had Osiris on my G35 when I was NA but I upgraded to ProEFI after broke down the costs... an Osiris dyno tune costs around $600, an EBC costs around $500, then two gauges will run you about $500... that's already $1600; my ProEFI setup cost me $2000, that includes a ProEFI boost controller and I-Boost switch, as well as the CAN gauge, much, MUCH better value for your money IMO.

bmccann101

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I should add that my car is being used to retool a Osiris version of the powerlab kit as utec went away. This is being done by powerlab.
I wont b incurring much of the associated expenses and the fuel system is also being fully sponsored.. That's all I can mention on that.

Ruthless18x

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I've only ever used an HKS. The newer model they came out with a year or so ago is nice.

Resmarted

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HKS has overboost features and all sorts of cool little nic-naks. I'd recommend selling your uprev and buying haltech. it can do boost control (gear dependent too!), and supports dual widebands. I decided haltech over uprev and im going to run 1200cc injectors. Besides, it wont be that much more than buying all the stuff separately with your uprev.

bmccann101

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Hks evc on the glovebox above the radio it is I guess.

Can u tell I was hoping someone knew of a kick *** ebc that Wasn't another 500 bucks? Ha. Oh well pay to play. I'm down.

str8dum1

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76mm turbo with custom headers?

obviously go with Proefi for full EMS since you are right there.

osirus with a EBC is dumb for the amount of money you've put into the car. hopefully noone has even suggested that.

thatv35guy

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I've got an AEM Tru Boost Controller and gauge for $220 if you want an EBC and you're interested in saving some money...

bmccann101

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There's always that option for sure ..ha. gotta save something for next month right?! Ha.
again the whole opportunity arose because they need to move to osiris for what they will offer w maps in their new kit.. I know Han runs pro efi and hit 906.

midz350

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PowerLap stage 2 kit uses the GT37R.

The 906rwhp g35 had the stage 5 kit that uses the majestic 76S turbo.

And please get a standalone.

GL.

k6750gsxr

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I run a profec b boost controller... runs awesome.

bmccann101

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These are all possibilities, but again, my build is in some ways up to them.
Im quite sure they are trying tio button up Osiris to run w thier kit, and there will be much experimenting w parts.. thats why i havent been super specific with the details of the build aside from the engine internals. I am told there will be expirementing w different turbos as well.

BUT this is all good stuff tho, like i said, im still a bit in the dark on my parts, and Im defintely a noob in regards to having any experience w this FI stuff.. ive been on the forum awhile, read lots of posts, so i am kind of familiar w alot of this stuff.. just looking for multiple opinions for sure, thanks all.

binder

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gt37r won't put down 900 hp on that small piping.

i second everyone else: instead of spending 500$ on an ebc just get a nice standalone that has EBC built in. proEFI or haltech.

bmccann101

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i appreciate all the posts, really i do.. but everyone is mising something here...

powerlab is REbuilding parts of thier kit.. I am the donor car... they are friends of mine... im not paying all that much.. i can assure you.. AND, it aint really up to me.. they arent going to sell it to the public including a haltech. Hence the osiris, and hence the need for a donor car to play with and build some decnet maps etc...

think of it like this.. if you werent allowed to pick parts, and what you got given to you for XMAS was a powerlab w a huge fuel system on Osiris.. what EBC would you use then??


Anyways, i feel i cant really contribute back adequately until my parts are in and i see what they are working with.. and have more specifics to list...for what i hear now, the HKS is a nice item, so Ill probably just buy that thru them as well... Im sure it will end up a bit cheaper than you think.

all my internals and externals will be in shop by tuesday.. front ends back getting repainted... wings in the US and shipping soon.. etc etc.. lots going on.


As for the HP they pulled... i dont want to get myself into THIER hp dyno battles, but Ive seen all these cars.. been lurking around between them all for a few years as we've built on mine.

But as for that small piping.. dunno man, you tell me. This is std powerlab tubing here.. w a very large turbo and fuel system and pro efi i believe. I dont want 900 hp.. i doubt ill get 900 hp, dont care to drive a 900 hp car anyways.. but then again, i have no idea what hes building me just yet. Im sure it will be les than his own personal wonder mobile... and thats 100 perecnt cool by me. IM down for 400rwhp all day long on a built block and heads. Lets stay away from that debate tho..

so howz about that EBC question eh.....haha..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mRo7ON7Jf8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_FcPw3ENvA

so howz about that EBC.....haha..

djamps

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Osiris is OK for stock block builds but not the right EMS for big boost. At least with the DE and gen2 ECU's, you'll have timing instability with the HPX MAF once you get in the 500whp range with that turbo.

bmccann101

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Yeah hear ya.not sure then really. I should let them get the block built first eh? Ha. Just thinking about the ebc over the weekend. Its apparent its a vastly premature thing to be concerned w yet.

Ill make sure to note it all w the build thread for sure.

str8dum1

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AMS1000 is the best EBC you can get. If you arent going to use any safe guards with your EMS, i'd def get the best EBC .
AMS1000 it is.

IIQuickSilverII

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sup d00d...
the 906whp G35 uses the "small' piping you talk about...not sure whre you got it thats its small..specially for a production kit. with out rehashing old threads...u might be confusing limits of a gt35r turbo.

OP. the not-production-released-revised piping will allow you plenty of turbo options....not just the gt37r which will give you the ~700whp goal...anyways
On EMS, since proefi is local id do that...and ask for the i-boost and dont stress it any more about what you will do with regards to boost controllers...gears...settings..etc.
Osiris might not be final on yoru car...just as a new option since utec is gone. for production kit.... either way you'll be fine...
Haltech is good too but due to location there are good options.