Another GTM Install
08-12-2011, 07:16 PM
#22
I'm interested to see how the IPT trans holds; TOOMNYMODS (from the titan scene) had a lot of problems with IPT. His tranny failed rather quickly (albeit in a much bigger heavier truck, it still didn't do the job that IPT claimed it would).
I'd rather hand my tranny over to gtm, because they actually give a rats a** about their customers, and they state that the tranny when built can handle 600whp without falter.
I'd rather hand my tranny over to gtm, because they actually give a rats a** about their customers, and they state that the tranny when built can handle 600whp without falter.
It seems the GTM is the easiest, most reliable route to 500whp if you are wanting a turbo forced induction application. And it also seems they have the best supercharged application on the market at this time as well.
Thanks.
-Jay
Last edited by f150intally; 08-12-2011 at 08:09 PM.
08-12-2011, 08:56 PM
#23
They have A specific supercharger application in the HKS unit which very few people have. I've seen GTM kits and they look good but to call it the most reliable... that can be left to interpretation and is most certainly a relative statement. APS, JWT, and Greddy all make kits that support 500Hwhp easily. What shop is doing the build? Judging by your screen name your in Tallahassee and the closest place I'd consider having it installed is no longer a GTM vendor.
08-13-2011, 06:09 AM
#24
Thanks for the input. Reliable probably isnt the best terminology. But, there are more limited options for HR and I didn't feel too excited about the Greddy kit since Greddy recently went through a chapter 11 bankruptcy and their support leaves a lot to be desired. I have read that their oil lines are unreliable...so much so that Forged produced a kit to replace them.
Z1 Motorsports in Carollton GA is doing the build. They are the same distance as the other big shop in the ATL area.
Z1 Motorsports in Carollton GA is doing the build. They are the same distance as the other big shop in the ATL area.
They have A specific supercharger application in the HKS unit which very few people have. I've seen GTM kits and they look good but to call it the most reliable... that can be left to interpretation and is most certainly a relative statement. APS, JWT, and Greddy all make kits that support 500Hwhp easily. What shop is doing the build? Judging by your screen name your in Tallahassee and the closest place I'd consider having it installed is no longer a GTM vendor.
08-13-2011, 06:26 AM
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Thanks for the input. Reliable probably isnt the best terminology. But, there are more limited options for HR and I didn't feel too excited about the Greddy kit since Greddy recently went through a chapter 11 bankruptcy and their support leaves a lot to be desired. I have read that their oil lines are unreliable...so much so that Forged produced a kit to replace them.
Z1 Motorsports in Carollton GA is doing the build. They are the same distance as the other big shop in the ATL area.
Z1 Motorsports in Carollton GA is doing the build. They are the same distance as the other big shop in the ATL area.
People are trying to help you and you are just ignorant.
Last edited by Ruthless18x; 08-13-2011 at 06:31 AM.
08-13-2011, 07:21 AM
#27
Enlighten me...how was Resmarted's post helpful to me? I am not here for the drama from senior members, just to post my experiences with the kit, the shop doing the install, and the after effect.
It is Ignorant for you to call me ignorant...you know nothing about me.
It is Ignorant for you to call me ignorant...you know nothing about me.
08-13-2011, 07:36 AM
#30
The moment you mention you pick a GTM kit and mention that "Sam is great to work with", most wont look past that and think you are a fool.
The setup seems solid, I hope it works out well for you. Even though I highly dislike GTM and Sam, I have installed a GTM S/C on a 370 for a friend, and thought the quality was very good. So far that car is running well. I also have a friend with a TT G37 - done at GTM, my friend lives here in MD. That car has held up at 530whp, for almost 20K miles now. Regardless of the past, he seems to have gotten his $hit (more) together.
Best of luck to you and dont take the harsh criticisms personally.
edit-dont run higher IMO than 500 or low 500's. My friend has a 612whp on stock block dyno, and Sam of course posts it everywhere as it being fine to run that power on stock block, then tells my friend to never run it at that setting. Same with other customers. Just a small exmaple of the advertising BS that occurs a lot on these forums. Then you have idiots with no prior experience thinking and posting that 600+whp is ok on a stock block....
Last edited by Alberto; 08-13-2011 at 07:39 AM.
08-13-2011, 02:16 PM
#35
Thank you for your respectful post. I have had a great experience with Sam so far. He has done everything he said he would so I'm satisfied. I don't think I take the criticisms personally but being called ignorant by someone who doesn't even know me is ludicrous. I wasn't saying the Greddy kit is trash just expressing why I didn't want it. BTW, bankruptcy was September of 2008, not even three years ago. I ran multiple Greddy/Trust parts on my boosted sr20 240sx with great success. But I am a fan of Garrett GT Series turbos that use ball bearings as opposed to journal bearings.
Now, can we please get back on topic... I drop the car of next Friday at Z1 and I'm pumped.
Now, can we please get back on topic... I drop the car of next Friday at Z1 and I'm pumped.
You seem like a nice level headed guy. I know you have done your research but you just have to understand GTM and Sam dont have the best reputation here, take it from someone who has dealt with that man personally, and been told to fawk off. I still have negative feelings towards him and believe that when his cars/motors hit the fan his finger pointing will begin.
The moment you mention you pick a GTM kit and mention that "Sam is great to work with", most wont look past that and think you are a fool.
The setup seems solid, I hope it works out well for you. Even though I highly dislike GTM and Sam, I have installed a GTM S/C on a 370 for a friend, and thought the quality was very good. So far that car is running well. I also have a friend with a TT G37 - done at GTM, my friend lives here in MD. That car has held up at 530whp, for almost 20K miles now. Regardless of the past, he seems to have gotten his $hit (more) together.
Best of luck to you and dont take the harsh criticisms personally.
edit-dont run higher IMO than 500 or low 500's. My friend has a 612whp on stock block dyno, and Sam of course posts it everywhere as it being fine to run that power on stock block, then tells my friend to never run it at that setting. Same with other customers. Just a small exmaple of the advertising BS that occurs a lot on these forums. Then you have idiots with no prior experience thinking and posting that 600+whp is ok on a stock block....
The moment you mention you pick a GTM kit and mention that "Sam is great to work with", most wont look past that and think you are a fool.
The setup seems solid, I hope it works out well for you. Even though I highly dislike GTM and Sam, I have installed a GTM S/C on a 370 for a friend, and thought the quality was very good. So far that car is running well. I also have a friend with a TT G37 - done at GTM, my friend lives here in MD. That car has held up at 530whp, for almost 20K miles now. Regardless of the past, he seems to have gotten his $hit (more) together.
Best of luck to you and dont take the harsh criticisms personally.
edit-dont run higher IMO than 500 or low 500's. My friend has a 612whp on stock block dyno, and Sam of course posts it everywhere as it being fine to run that power on stock block, then tells my friend to never run it at that setting. Same with other customers. Just a small exmaple of the advertising BS that occurs a lot on these forums. Then you have idiots with no prior experience thinking and posting that 600+whp is ok on a stock block....
Last edited by f150intally; 08-13-2011 at 02:44 PM.
08-13-2011, 02:29 PM
#36
no problem, more limited options on the HR motor... If I was running DE I really like the looks of that Momentum kit and would've probably tackled that install but then would've been significantly prohibited by the stock block. Just for reference, not saying I know all by any stretch but this is my third boosted car personally and have helped build and install all sorts of boosted setups. My best friend was the first person to break 600whp with a Precision SC61 on a B18 (1.8 Liter) Honda Civic. It was a beast but sucked at Drag racing... from a roll it was ridiculous. Another good friend of mine swapped an SR20DET (stock block with built head) into a 93 rx-7 and made 537whp and ran 10.34et at Moroso. It was called the SRX and was featured in Modified Magazine.
Last edited by f150intally; 08-13-2011 at 02:45 PM.
08-13-2011, 07:18 PM
#38
As I said before, I'll do one run and hit 500WHP so I can post up the #s.........
For me it's not about what power my car can make but rather the power I'll run the car all the time. There's no such thing as A boost and B boost settings for me.
For the people running 520-530WHP is that their everyday boost settings? How many miles have they been running it at 500WHP+?
Last edited by jeffie7; 08-13-2011 at 07:19 PM.
08-14-2011, 03:25 AM
#39
I was just stating that I wouldn't trust gtm for what they act out to be. So instead of getting worked up about it, just be aware.
Look at it this way, would you rather your friends tell you "dude don't eat that chicken you just bought, jack ate some and got sick" or "dude that chicken is BAWSS, eat it ALL" when your friends knew jack got sick.
And from what I can tell the greddy kit is probably the most versatile and well rounded kit you can buy. It is reliable, popular, affordable (compared to other kits), can make some real serious power, spools pretty well and pretty obtainable, im sure there are a few members on here who would agree
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Look at it this way, would you rather your friends tell you "dude don't eat that chicken you just bought, jack ate some and got sick" or "dude that chicken is BAWSS, eat it ALL" when your friends knew jack got sick.
And from what I can tell the greddy kit is probably the most versatile and well rounded kit you can buy. It is reliable, popular, affordable (compared to other kits), can make some real serious power, spools pretty well and pretty obtainable, im sure there are a few members on here who would agree
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08-14-2011, 09:12 AM
#40
I don't imagine people flog the cars at high boost settings all the time if they have a stock block. Most of my driving on the street will be at the wastegate spring pressure. I will up the boost occasionally on the street for fun and when I go to the track. I don't think its too smart to do the majority of driving at high boost with a stock block. The car is not my DD but I look forward to driving it in the fall and spring quite a bit when temps are more favorable.
I do want to add that Sam was very informative with me when asking about stock block limits. He said although capable of higher horsepower, he suggests to keep the car around 500-520 max but even at that level things such as driving habits and abusive owners will destroy a car. Actually, much less that 500whp will destroy a stock block if you are overly abusive. I think you have to apply common sense when owning projects like this. I won't build until I am forced to.
I do want to add that Sam was very informative with me when asking about stock block limits. He said although capable of higher horsepower, he suggests to keep the car around 500-520 max but even at that level things such as driving habits and abusive owners will destroy a car. Actually, much less that 500whp will destroy a stock block if you are overly abusive. I think you have to apply common sense when owning projects like this. I won't build until I am forced to.
Last edited by f150intally; 08-14-2011 at 11:04 AM.