Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

700hp turbo build goal

Old Dec 8, 2011 | 04:57 PM
  #21  
konrad's Avatar
konrad
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
From: Staten Island,NY
Default

So lets say BP kit $5100
Used Rods,pistons $700-900
Machine work $500-800??
Utec-$ 600 with all accessories
Fuel system $800 with pump ( I say this coz my fuel system cost me $800)
clutch $1k

damn you might be short
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 05:39 PM
  #22  
Boosted Performance's Avatar
Boosted Performance
Vendor - Former Vendor
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 18
From: Edmonton, AB
Default

Originally Posted by konrad
you can probably get to 600whp on a utec with some 760 injectors. A340 pump , build block and a Boosted performance 6765 kit, you would need a fuel system. If you build your own than you can save some $.
For 600whp the 6266 T4 .81 or .96 will do just fine. Remember, the 62mm billet wheel will move 73lbs of air per minute. This is as much air as a GT37R.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 05:51 PM
  #23  
konrad's Avatar
konrad
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
From: Staten Island,NY
Default

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance
For 600whp the 6266 T4 .81 or .96 will do just fine. Remember, the 62mm billet wheel will move 73lbs of air per minute. This is as much air as a GT37R.
ok so still 10k wont do it even if he does most of the work himself, with used parts and self made fuel system
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 05:53 PM
  #24  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by konrad
if you buy used parts from the forums, and do most of the work yourself than maybe and thats a big maybe. If you can weld up your own turbo kit than you might just get to your goal. 600whp would be a much better goal to get to.

you can probably get to 600whp on a utec with some 760 injectors. A340 pump , build block and a Boosted performance 6765 kit, you would need a fuel system. If you build your own than you can save some $.

The key word is doing most of the work yourself.
Utec is good to 600 cc injectors, after that u need a stand alone or a reflash.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 05:58 PM
  #25  
Silntseker33's Avatar
Silntseker33
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: nc
Default

Lol I may be new to this forum but not new to building cars. Got out of the Honda scene and my first z was mainly motor and show, sold it now I have an 04. All labor will be done by me and a friend of mine who owns a shop in mooresville. Block work is around 2500$ and turbo kits are 5,000-6,000ish. Not going with the momentum kit because this isn't going to be a 3 year build more like a have it done by next December kinda thing. Just simply asked what the best route was as this is a forum to get help and advice from others right?? Lol you guys trip me out. Seen 600whp builds under 10k and just simply asked if it had been done dipping into the 700whp area some people just don't have anything better to do then bash and flame the crap outta someone's thread
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:02 PM
  #26  
Silntseker33's Avatar
Silntseker33
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: nc
Default

As for the guys leaving helpful info, it's greatly appreciated! Id like to be in the 600s with hopes of hitting 7 before I sell it or trade like I usually do.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:13 PM
  #27  
Boosted Performance's Avatar
Boosted Performance
Vendor - Former Vendor
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 18
From: Edmonton, AB
Default

Originally Posted by Silntseker33
As for the guys leaving helpful info, it's greatly appreciated! Id like to be in the 600s with hopes of hitting 7 before I sell it or trade like I usually do.
If your engine work is only $2500, and you do all the work then it may be possible to get to 600, maybe a bit more. Fuel system and EMS will be key though. You need a good fuel return system ($900), I think Uprev ($600) will get you that power, you need an HPX MAF sensor ($300) and fuel injectors ($550). There is also clutch and flywheel, and if you go with Southbend you are looking at another $1000.

With the list above, $5k on a turbo kit you are already over $10k. You could find some of this stuff used, and save some money as well. This is also assuming that all goes well, and you don't have any problems at all. Don't forget tuning because that will be at least another $600.

Last edited by Boosted Performance; Dec 8, 2011 at 06:15 PM.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:26 PM
  #28  
Silntseker33's Avatar
Silntseker33
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: nc
Default

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance
If your engine work is only $2500, and you do all the work then it may be possible to get to 600, maybe a bit more. Fuel system and EMS will be key though. You need a good fuel return system ($900), I think Uprev ($600) will get you that power, you need an HPX MAF sensor ($300) and fuel injectors ($550). There is also clutch and flywheel, and if you go with Southbend you are looking at another $1000.

With the list above, $5k on a turbo kit you are already over $10k. You could find some of this stuff used, and save some money as well. This is also assuming that all goes well, and you don't have any problems at all. Don't forget tuning because that will be at least another $600.


My block work consists of boring and honing, eagle rods and weisco 8:8:1 I believe pistons, crank balanced and I believe that included my rods dipped in high temp coating. My cap isn't necessarily at 10,000 I just didn't wanna get ***** deep in this and lose bookoos of money when I sell or trade it. My buddy Shawn is a licensed momentum dealer so he's been pushing that kit hard but he's talking with a discount 9,000 for the turbo setup and I would be just as happy with greddy or garrett and At 2/3 the cost. I figured 2500 in the bottom end, 5,000 in the turbo setup which could go higher but would like to stay around there somewhere, priced cams and port and polishing and oversized valves with stiffer springs and was told the z's head already flows good enough and wouldn't be money well spent so might still do cams and put a cap on 15,000$ I'll know by next year what I really wanna spend.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:35 PM
  #29  
konrad's Avatar
konrad
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
From: Staten Island,NY
Default

Originally Posted by n2deepnot2keep
Utec is good to 600 cc injectors, after that u need a stand alone or a reflash.
really, thats weird my utec must be special I was running Bosch ev14 760cc

Last edited by konrad; Dec 8, 2011 at 06:47 PM.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:44 PM
  #30  
Boosted Performance's Avatar
Boosted Performance
Vendor - Former Vendor
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 18
From: Edmonton, AB
Default

Originally Posted by Silntseker33
My buddy Shawn is a licensed momentum dealer so he's been pushing that kit hard but he's talking with a discount 9,000 for the turbo setup .
Wow, some buddy you got there.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:49 PM
  #31  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by Silntseker33
Lol I may be new to this forum but not new to building cars. Got out of the Honda scene and my first z was mainly motor and show, sold it now I have an 04. All labor will be done by me and a friend of mine who owns a shop in mooresville. Block work is around 2500$ and turbo kits are 5,000-6,000ish. Not going with the momentum kit because this isn't going to be a 3 year build more like a have it done by next December kinda thing. Just simply asked what the best route was as this is a forum to get help and advice from others right?? Lol you guys trip me out. Seen 600whp builds under 10k and just simply asked if it had been done dipping into the 700whp area some people just don't have anything better to do then bash and flame the crap outta someone's thread
Like a lot of people on here. I took my lumps and learned the hard way. This is my 3rd build on the same car.

Bty this one started in late may ( not 3 years ago).
if you don't do the research and start asking noob questions, your gonna get flamed.

But I will try to help anyway.
Your 2500 will cover the bottom end, for your goal you really need head work, ( on your motor) he he. So add another grand or so to that.

Let's say 5500 for a kit.

Then u Must get headers, the stock headers will start to choke your motor at about 450whp. ( an 8 inch section of the stock headers is only 1.5" in diameter). Meagon headers are about 300.

Then of course a fuel return system is a must. Add another grand for that.

If e85 is not available to you the you will need a dual pump system.

I won't include the 800 for that and assume u can get a corn tune.
Add 170 for 340lpg pump


Then u will need a uprev reflash at the very least for your ecu. That's 700.

Then u have to get it tuned let's say u can do that for 500.

Injectors will cost u about 750

And let's add 800 for a cheap exhaust.

That puts u at 12220 and I probably forgot some stuff.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:55 PM
  #32  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by konrad
really, thats weird my utec must be special I was running Bosch ev14 760cc
Didn't say you couldnt. But it goes back to that light socket thing.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:00 PM
  #33  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance
Wow, some buddy you got there.
That just shows he has done 0 reaserch. You can get the kit for under 7500
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:05 PM
  #34  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by n2deepnot2keep
Like a lot of people on here. I took my lumps and learned the hard way. This is my 3rd build on the same car.

Bty this one started in late may ( not 3 years ago).
if you don't do the research and start asking noob questions, your gonna get flamed.
P
But I will try to help anyway.
Your 2500 will cover the bottom end, for your goal you really need head work, ( on your motor) he he. So add another grand or so to that.

Let's say 5500 for a kit.

Then u Must get headers, the stock headers will start to choke your motor at about 450whp. ( an 8 inch section of the stock headers is only 1.5" in diameter). Meagon headers are about 300.

Then of course a fuel return system is a must. Add another grand for that.

If e85 is not available to you the you will need a dual pump system.

I won't include the 800 for that and assume u can get a corn tune.
Add 170 for 340lpg pump


Then u will need a uprev reflash at the very least for your ecu. That's 700.

Then u have to get it tuned let's say u can do that for 500.

Injectors will cost u about 750

And let's add 800 for a cheap exhaust.

That puts u at 12220 and I probably forgot some stuff.
Missed the head work so that's $13220
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:07 PM
  #35  
konrad's Avatar
konrad
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
From: Staten Island,NY
Default

Originally Posted by n2deepnot2keep
That just shows he has done 0 reaserch. You can get the kit for under 7500
i would much rather get a used TT kit or a new BP kit a lot cheaper.

LMFAO at $9k , I hope it comes with a blow job
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:24 PM
  #36  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by konrad
i would much rather get a used TT kit or a new BP kit a lot cheaper.

LMFAO at $9k , I hope it comes with a blow job
Yeah, I got a nice package deal from momentum, I got the tuner kit, the $1500 headers and the $1200 exhaust for a little over 9k.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:31 PM
  #37  
Silntseker33's Avatar
Silntseker33
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: nc
Default

Originally Posted by n2deepnot2keep
Yeah, I got a nice package deal from momentum, I got the tuner kit, the $1500 headers and the $1200 exhaust for a little over 9k.
Mine was the same package deal minus the exhaust for the same price lol, probably not gonna get that one. And I've done lots of research, as originally posted I've been looking at other build threads trying to find someone that had built what I'm going for so I can somewhat follow their path with a few twists of my own
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:53 PM
  #38  
konrad's Avatar
konrad
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
From: Staten Island,NY
Default

Originally Posted by Silntseker33
Mine was the same package deal minus the exhaust for the same price lol, probably not gonna get that one. And I've done lots of research, as originally posted I've been looking at other build threads trying to find someone that had built what I'm going for so I can somewhat follow their path with a few twists of my own
my old build was no posted in this forum, but I made my own turbo kit with HX40 turbo, Utec, full fuel system, 760cc injectors, Build motor, not sure how much i spent in total but it was under $10k or close to it.
I got a set of oem bore pistons, had the shop balance the assembly , than I assembled the engine. so 99% of the work was done by me. Only problem is I didnt know **** about building engines and didnt even measure crank, block, rods. Just got OEM size bearings. As my signature explains a lot, I'm on my second build. I do have to say that I was running unturned on a APS 550cc tune for 7k miles pushing it a lot.
I'm sure if i did proper research ,and actually measured everything, and get tuned right away I would have still been running.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:05 PM
  #39  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by n2deepnot2keep
Yeah, I got a nice package deal from momentum, I got the tuner kit, the $1500 headers and the $1200 exhaust for a little over 9k.
So your momentum dealer buddy is trying to screw u out of $1200 and you're laughing at me? Uhhhh ok.
Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:08 PM
  #40  
n2deepnot2keep's Avatar
n2deepnot2keep
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: saltlakecity ut
Default

Originally Posted by n2deepnot2keep
So your momentum dealer buddy is trying to screw u out of $1200 and you're laughing at me? Uhhhh ok.
Ment to attach this to op's comment. Oops

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:07 PM.