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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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BP name drop...

*drop* & done... "Rude" nothing wrong with the name drop Ive trapped 131 on street tires with the small .96 ar 6262.. Hope to be low 10s and 140+ With the 6766 and slicks. That is reality not some dyno or drama.

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OP... Good Luck SOHO, Glad to see you guys keeping the choices coming.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
how's that PL kit working for you? oh wait, is it even done yet?
I'm still in the process of saving money to continue my project ... the scope of which you know NOTHING about. It also has NOTHING to do with PL or this thread.

I don't think it's right to jack another vendor's introduction thread with negative comments about front/top mount kits and make comparisons to your preferred kit when the OP hasn't even released completed pics or performance numbers yet.


@ MI 35th... Who cares? Not I. This thread isn't about you or that kit.

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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
I'm still in the process of saving money to continue my project ... the scope of which you know NOTHING about. It also has NOTHING to do with PL or this thread.
You're right, you completely win.....You are the king of pointless name dropping so I shouldn't even attempt to catch up.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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cant we all just get along?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
I'm still in the process of saving money to continue my project ... the scope of which you know NOTHING about. It also has NOTHING to do with PL or this thread.

I don't think it's right to jack another vendor's introduction thread with negative comments about front/top mount kits and make comparisons to your preferred kit when the OP hasn't even released completed pics or performance numbers yet.


@ MI 35th... Who cares? Not I. This thread isn't about you or that kit.
That makes about as much sense as you saying anything at all... You opened you mouth to talk about trolling and all I did was feed the binder fire! The fact is my car runs, quickly as well, BP works, makes good power and all that for a reasonable price. I have attended multiple SCCA, HPDE, and Drag events. Drive 1000+ miles for ZDAYZ and without a single issue. I would think the OP would want information like that in designing a new kit. That is valuable feedback, to be honest no one gives a **** about who's cars are in the BUILD process... or design process. We want results and you have NONE, Op clearly excited about the new kit may have jumped the gun and invited this type of banter into their thread.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryd87
cant we all just get along?
nope, apparently if we even so much mention another manufacturer when trying to reference a type of design we are "trolling" and doing something bad. I was merely asking about the route of design they chose verses another route that showed great results. I used those nasty words that Rude searches for every time he logs in: "boosted performance" as soon as you say it he jumps in the forum and you are a piece of crap for referencing it.


OP, sorry for all the nonsense in your thread. I only mentioned the other manufacturer in reference to a different type of design and again wasn't using it to disrespect your choices.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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How about we keep this on topic from here on?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
Thanks for your answers!

I do believe the routing on the boosted performance kit does not alter anything on the car and runs the cold side on the same side of the car. No new fluid tanks, no crossing over the engine, 2 foot less piping.

I went that route because I don't like the piping being longer or in front of the engine. i hated that from day one about my vortech and decided against kits like that when i switched to turbo.

The exhaust turbine housing is too small for our engines as you noted. What needs to happen is a t4 housing used. Not sure why garrett doesn't make a t4 housing for those turbos since there is a demand for them. That would make the best backpressure reduction since we see that with the t4 precision turbos.
Boosted Performance has designed and a fabricated a nice mid mount system and there are very few ways to run the piping when the turbo is upfront. We decided to take a very unique approach to this routing and thus have reduced some piping length from the previous kits. Garrett does make a T4 housing for this turbo but we decided to go with the Tial V-band housing because it eliminates the use of gaskets and bolts and also helps with clearance issues.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by G3po
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"It is very difficult to run the piping to where it is not at all towards the front of the engine or to run the piping all on one side because of the space limitations that are on these vehicles"

Though clearly more expensive to develop , if you where to craft a new plenum with the TB mirrored upon the passenger side , then the cold side pipe would directly route up to the TB on the passenger side and avoid the soak induced by the down pipe on the driver side . Basicaly like an HR plenum with the driver side TB removed and blocked.

I've been running the MTM setup for several months and It appears that most of the inlet heat soak comes from the hot side DP and exhaust housing.
My P and Tial housings are ceramic coated , which helps allot , but it could be better
I do like your train of thought on this idea and it would eliminate any type of heat soaking from the downpipe, but the very small surface area of the downpipe that will be near the cold side piping as it is making its way up to the throttle body is minimal. A turbo blanket will be used to try and reduce some of the heat that is created but in any turbo kit that is going to be designed, heat will always be the main concern and all that we can do is try to reduce as much of it as we can.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SOHOMotorsports
Boosted Performance has designed and a fabricated a nice mid mount system and there are very few ways to run the piping when the turbo is upfront. We decided to take a very unique approach to this routing and thus have reduced some piping length from the previous kits. Garrett does make a T4 housing for this turbo but we decided to go with the Tial V-band housing because it eliminates the use of gaskets and bolts and also helps with clearance issues.
I agree. I think based on what i'm picturing your design will be an improvement from the kits that do run the piping in front of the motor in terms of heat soak. Do you think you will add the t4 housing option in the future for built engine cars looking for high numbers?
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
I agree. I think based on what i'm picturing your design will be an improvement from the kits that do run the piping in front of the motor in terms of heat soak. Do you think you will add the t4 housing option in the future for built engine cars looking for high numbers?
It definately will be an improvement and for the guys that will be looking for higher horsepower numbers, we will be going with a larger series Garrett turbo!
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SOHOMotorsports
It definately will be an improvement and for the guys that will be looking for higher horsepower numbers, we will be going with a larger series Garrett turbo!
so like the 4088r? Do they have the same size vband on the input and output or will you have to supply new exhaust pieces with the larger turbo?

I don't know much about the vband housings. They seem cool but I stuck with t4 since you can get a huge range of turbo sizes without changing the piping. Curious if that was the same on the vbands.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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4088r is only a 64mm turbo. gtx4202r would be worthwhile at 75mm
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Looking forward to fabrication pictures!!!
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 05:32 AM
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A gtx42 is a big turbo! I would love to see that turbo on a 350z
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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thats what Hal has on his 350z for the longest time
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
4088r is only a 64mm turbo. gtx4202r would be worthwhile at 75mm
dang, why does garrett skip over some very useful turbo applications? That's a huge jump in size. I didn't know the jump was that large from gt40 to gt42
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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We have run both the garrett gt4094r on a de and the gt4294r on a vq35hr ,we found the 40 to be a bit small in the turbine but both made good power.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
so like the 4088r? Do they have the same size vband on the input and output or will you have to supply new exhaust pieces with the larger turbo?

I don't know much about the vband housings. They seem cool but I stuck with t4 since you can get a huge range of turbo sizes without changing the piping. Curious if that was the same on the vbands.
It would all depend on the horsepower range that the person would be looking for, we would want to make sure that the turbo that we would be chosing for them would not cause any loss in horsepower. V band housings are bunched into groups, for example the v band housing that we have chosen will fit any 30 or 35 series turbo, and then the next size would be for the 42 and 45 series turbo. V band housings do have benefits which include better flow stainless steel housings that allow for better heat control and quicker spool and a more durable seal than a gasket. If a 42 series turbo were to be chosen for the turbo kit then the piping size would have to be increased to allow for the increase in size of the inducer and exducer side of the turbo.
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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Any updates on this? I'm pretty interested.
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