Okay so first off, I'm Matt, I know I'm new here but I have been following this forum since I got my beautiful orange 04 350z about a year ago. I know I can probably find all my answers somewhere on this forum but I wanted to make a thread specific to my situation. I am 18 years old and picked up my Z with 80k miles on it for 12 grand from a dealer. I have a Nismo Catback exhaust and Nismo CAI, and some cheapo non resonated test pipes. I am planning on going FI sometime soon, I have been looking at the vortech for sometime and another kit also caught my eye http://www.neotuned.com/nissan-350z-...turbo-kit.html , yes it is a godspeed kit with a authentic Turbonetics turbo and wastegate. My question about that is what parts if any would I need to replace to make this kit reliable. Is it reliable at all? Remember I am only 18, I work 40 hour weeks for little pay while still in school, so I am on a budget. Also my motor has 100k miles on it so Im guessing a rebuild would be necessary before I boost it. Would new forged pistons and rods make up for the fact its a 100k motor running boost? My plan was to forge the motor spending about 1500-2000 on parts and whatever on labor. Then later down the road add FI either the $2500 turbo kit or the vortech plus supporting parts. My goal is 400-450 RELIABLE daily driven Rwhp. Any info, experience or help will be much appreciated.

 

you get what you pay for, and dont forget you need to do fuel delivery and a tune also. with 100k miles you might run into problems

 

Don't do it, especially considering your financial situation. Once you go FI, the drain on your wallet will never seem to stop...

Read this:

http://g35driver.com/forums/forced-i...-you-push.html

If you are still interested after reading that, then read this:

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...for-noobs.html

This one is always good to put things into perspective:

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...ust-watch.html
This is always a good one:

 

no need to build the motor with 100k your tolerances are perfect now!

 

LOL very nice vid so what I have been seeing on the forums and your links is that most people arent having problems with 400rwhp on the stock block. But then again most people don't have over 100k miles on the stock block. That is why I wanted to redo the rods and pistons first as the rods will go first and they're old to begin with. I dont plan on having some monster 600+ car. Just somewhere around 400. So for the the FI parts somewhere around 4-6k plus tuning. I really want to build this thing for the death of me and NA is crazy expensive.

 

So you think boosting about 8 PSI would be safe on it?

 

a built engine short block is at best 5600 dollars... unless you are an 18 year old highly experienced machinist and can save those costs.. also and is would be best built w lower compression than your current one has for FI
there is onyl ONE simple and relatively inexpensive FI for you, and thats NOS. Read up on it and do it right.. 2500 bucks or so...but FI is NEVER cheap.. the peripherals alone are quite expensive. Our bearings oil pump and squirter holes suck, its not just a high hp issue.. everyone and thier brother wants a cheap fi z.. but it rarely happens.

Im adding cheap fi to my Daily driven chrysler 300.. but it has iron sleeves and fully forged crank and rods and bulletproof bearings.. the Z does not. Is what it is.

 

I think my biggest question as of now is not necessarily building the block but is it safe running boost at all with 100k stock motor at about 375-400whp

 

no no no

sorry....but NO

 

Of course it is.. Its the exact same question ppl ask in every thread tbh tho... And the answer is STILL the same:

There is no "safe" fi on a stock block..it can be done successfully or you can pop it in a week.. You are a variable as well as a million other things.
So do people do it? Sure.
Do you run the risk of discovering your 11 year old engine was getting ready to start knocking?
Absolutely.
Can you afford the down time to install and tune?
Can you afford to buy another engine if it happens suddenly?

I do not and will never recommend cheap fi on a vq.. Or I would have done so myself.

I'm just the internet... Be a pioneer and do what u want tho... Being 18 w no income doesn't match w having an fi z.. I foresee it draining you and your enjoyment and you ultimately selling the car.. I see it alllllll the time man.

 

People want a black and white answer. There are so many variables that it's impossible to tell what will happen.

OP, how much mechanical experience do you have?

 

Boost is addictive. Once you have driven on 400 whp for a while, you will want more. Just warning you. You may be tempted to crank up the boost when you have your buddy in the car and you see a built Mustang, Camaro, etc. pull up next to you at a stop light. Don't do it.

Also, at 400 whp, the motor will not last as long as the stock motor (assuming you use the power often, which you probably will). So just be prepared for that, and make darn sure you get a good tune from a knowledgeable tuner. At 400 whp, Uprev Osiris should be good to use for the tune.

 

this is just another dreamer thread

 

Maybe! Not gonna lie about it. But having new rods and pistons and boosting a reliable vortech at 8 psi under 400. I don't see many problems that will come from it besides the initial investment ofcourse. And for tuning there is a very reliable import shop a couple hours away in Columbus I can't think of the name this second

 

Then you are fooling yourself.

Plan for the worst, not the best. It will save you money, time and heartache in the end.

 

best advice here, OP you cant afford FI lets just be honest, i know you want it really really bad, but so does 99% of the Z community. the best thing i can tell you is you shouldnt blow ur money.

you need a properly built motor and not being a 18 year old to have a FI Z!

 

There's the truth!

 

Money's not the issue. For the next 4 years through schooling I am going to be expense free thanks to the rents as my brothers were who never worked an hour in their lives! Haha. I just got this job as a direct funnel to funding my car. I do not need it for anything else. I usually don't even have to pay for the gas in my car.. As sad as that is to admit it's the truth. However I have a friend who owns a shop and has built countless nissans and he just offered to walk me through the build. So now this could also become a learning experience for cars as I am going into mechanical engineering. For now I am going to talk to him and see what he thinks.

 

Why not funnel the money toward a house?

You know, an appreciating asset...

 

Because I don't love houses!