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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
This will sound harsh... Don't be so naive to think that a possible second thermostat failing is a bigger issue than having to do extra machining to fit a headgaskets and tty bolt combo that a good majority would advise is not the best on the market. You would be better off IMHO, not running the cooling mod and running the hks/l19 combo.
Fitting HR-style HG requires very simple mod, it could be done with a rotary tool.

I'm going with ARP head studs (non L19 ones). These aren't TTY, right?
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomas.
Fitting HR-style HG requires very simple mod, it could be done with a rotary tool.

I'm going with ARP head studs (non L19 ones). These aren't TTY, right?
you want the strongest studs you can buy, if L19's are available, you would be foolish not to get them. TTY are bolts, not studs, so if you are buying ARP head studs, no they are not.


sealing the heads properly is one of the biggest concerns building these motors. the cooling mods you are discussing are not as important
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
you want the strongest studs you can buy, if L19's are available, you would be foolish not to get them. TTY are bolts, not studs, so if you are buying ARP head studs, no they are not.


sealing the heads properly is one of the biggest concerns building these motors. the cooling mods you are discussing are not as important
Thanks. I had VQ35DE '03 that was prone to overheating and overfilling coolant overfill reservoir if you were driving WOT for few minutes and going over 120 mph (surely the issue was in cooling/HG sealing when the engine's hot).
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Both the pathfinder mod and HR gasket with the machined block are what I'm looking to do on mine. No one has mentioned doing them together, is it a problem ?
Pathfinder mod diverts coolant flow to aid with block cooling, so more coolant cools the block and less goes to the head.

HR mod requires shaving down diverting walls in the block because the coolant flow is changed: it goes to the block and then enters the head right near exhaust valves (the hottest part of the head). Doing that also increases coolant flow going to the block and cooling cylinders.

I'm not sure doing both mods is a good idea: when secondary thermostat opens less coolant goes to the head. Not sure how big the chagne in the flow though.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 09:58 PM
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i am getting the pathfinder mod done and i have the HR mod done so ill let you guys now if its better or worse. If room i wonder if a valve on the line that allows it to be flow to thepathfinder t-stat or not flow is a good idea. would the pressure blow the pipe if its not allowed to flow through into the T-stat?

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Thomas.
Pathfinder mod diverts coolant flow to aid with block cooling, so more coolant cools the block and less goes to the head.

HR mod requires shaving down diverting walls in the block because the coolant flow is changed: it goes to the block and then enters the head right near exhaust valves (the hottest part of the head). Doing that also increases coolant flow going to the block and cooling cylinders.

I'm not sure doing both mods is a good idea: when secondary thermostat opens less coolant goes to the head. Not sure how big the chagne in the flow though.
I've done both mods, two years of abusing, no problem.

You should really get L19 bolts if your HP goal is more than 500WHP. ARP 2000 head bolts doesn't have enough clamping force, that's a well known and proven fact.
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 04:27 AM
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I've done both mods, two years of abusing, no problem.
Thanks! Did you do anything else to your cooling system? How much HP are you pushing? Is your car SC or turbocharged?
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You should really get L19 bolts if your HP goal is more than 500WHP. ARP 2000 head bolts doesn't have enough clamping force, that's a well known and proven fact.
L19 head studs are already on my shopping list. Going with ARP L19 head studs & ARP main studs.
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by R6n350GT
would the pressure blow the pipe if its not allowed to flow through into the T-stat?
Blocking that pipe is absolutely safe. The pressure there is about the same as in radiator.
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 09:19 AM
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Thanks! Did you do anything else to your cooling system? How much HP are you pushing? Is your car SC or turbocharged?
Having fully built motor and Boosted Performance mid mount turbo kit with PT 6266 turbo. 600+ whp. 34 row oil cooler, stock coolant radiator and fans.
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