Another Daily Driven Vortech Build
#63
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I went with a Stage 3 Competition Clutch, segmented multi friction disc instead of the puck style for more street manners. Rated at 550tq I believe. Should be here on Thursday. Thanks for your suggestions, Twin disc or some of the higher end clutches are outta my price range ATM
#64
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Stopped by the shop to drop off the stage 3 clutch and and also learned the real reason why my Z was knocking. It wasn't a spun bearing at all, it was a bent rod.
Here is a shot from the top of the old block. Looks like there was uneven mixtures in each of the cylinders due to the Methanol injection kit not dispersing equally, in combination with compensating running leaner AFRs with the pump gas to even out my AFR or Lambda readings.
Misc pic of random parts being prepped. Peep the metal shavings in the oil pan.
And here is another shot of the new built Shortblock with some parts installed already like the new oil pump, ARP head studs and some o-rings/gaskets.
Shop owner said the car "Should" be done before Xmas, he has three more cars he is doing on top of mine so we will see. The excitement is killing me.
Here is a shot from the top of the old block. Looks like there was uneven mixtures in each of the cylinders due to the Methanol injection kit not dispersing equally, in combination with compensating running leaner AFRs with the pump gas to even out my AFR or Lambda readings.
Misc pic of random parts being prepped. Peep the metal shavings in the oil pan.
And here is another shot of the new built Shortblock with some parts installed already like the new oil pump, ARP head studs and some o-rings/gaskets.
Shop owner said the car "Should" be done before Xmas, he has three more cars he is doing on top of mine so we will see. The excitement is killing me.
#65
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Update. Things are moving a tad slower than I thought but the heads are back and now are on the new shortblock with the ARP head bolts, thermostat and upper oil pan in place.
Motor will be in end of day on Friday with my OBX Longtubes and stage 3 clutch installed, by next week Monday or Tuesday I should be taking it home granted there are no issues
Motor will be in end of day on Friday with my OBX Longtubes and stage 3 clutch installed, by next week Monday or Tuesday I should be taking it home granted there are no issues
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#67
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No I went with the standard ARP Head stud Kit. I'm not trying to push more than 17psi on this high compression block on 93pump+Meth, and even with stock studs on your car Oldman, you are pushing 17psi and up with no problems lifting heads. I think I will be just fine with the added insurance ARP guarantees.
The clutch I have is Competition Cluch stage 3 with the segmented disk instead of the puck style. It's rated at 550tq I believe.
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I understand about a budget, but the segmented clutch you will HATE on the street..
Should wait for the part you really need. IMO
Always OVERKILL on Extreme Load Parts.. it not to late to changes them ont now before install. IMO
You now have a lot of money invested, You don't want more engine problems down the road, and everybody always wants more power.
Should wait for the part you really need. IMO
Always OVERKILL on Extreme Load Parts.. it not to late to changes them ont now before install. IMO
You now have a lot of money invested, You don't want more engine problems down the road, and everybody always wants more power.
#69
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I appreciate the kind words of advice. I will be fine with the clutch, I have a guess on how hard it will feel in mine as I drove my buddy's Evo 9 with a Spec stage 3 clutch and his was a bit stiff, but not too bad. I will get used to it and adjust my driving style as necessary.
As for more power, yes you are right, however I technically can't due to not having a fuel return system yet. There was a build on here with a Vortech SI trim with a returnless system capping out at 480whp on pump alone with 725cc injectors. So with the CM10 nozzle (12.8gph) for my Methanol kit and added compression, I know I will be right at or over 500whp once dialed in, and for the street, that is enough for me. Once I do purchase a fuel return system, I will try to increase boost steadily.
As for more power, yes you are right, however I technically can't due to not having a fuel return system yet. There was a build on here with a Vortech SI trim with a returnless system capping out at 480whp on pump alone with 725cc injectors. So with the CM10 nozzle (12.8gph) for my Methanol kit and added compression, I know I will be right at or over 500whp once dialed in, and for the street, that is enough for me. Once I do purchase a fuel return system, I will try to increase boost steadily.
#72
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Yea tuning a returnless system is a bit of an annoyance as the fuel pressure is not always stable and AFRs are pretty jumpy even with adjusting the fuel compensation as close as I can to the Target air fuel ratio. I've been learning pretty quickly how restrictive the system is lol. I will definitely consider CJM for a fuel return system in the future.
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Update on the motor rebuild. Motor is still being put together by the shop, the majority of the engine is put together minus the starter, alternator, lower oil pan, Fluidampr and intake manifold. The valve covers, spark plugs, coilpacks and Longtube Headers will be installed after the block is mounted and hooked up to the transmission. They said also that they will fix little things for me like my Intercooler brace, some wiring I had done for the meth injection kit and fixing the welds for my Meth Injection nozzle on my charge pipe which was awesome. I was told to shoot for Friday to take her home but to be prepared to pick it up sometime next week. I just took a few snapshots of the car in the shop, not much change. Still waiting patiently.
#76
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Yes the front end is still intact. They removed the motor from underneath the car by unbolting and removing the subframe.They told me that they wouldn't even try fighting with my LTHs until the block was in placed in the car because they did it this way, if they fed it from the front it would of been easier to deal with the headers.
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Yes the front end is still intact. They removed the motor from underneath the car by unbolting and removing the subframe.They told me that they wouldn't even try fighting with my LTHs until the block was in placed in the car because they did it this way, if they fed it from the front it would of been easier to deal with the headers.
#78
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LOL they are going to have a lot of fun trying to put the headers on the car with the engine in the car. I had to pull my motor to put mine on not enough room the get them in. I didn't think it was bad putting the engine in the car from the front with my LTH's by myself.
#80
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Small update, motor is installed back into the Z. The OBX Longtubes and clutch were also installed successfully.
The starter, AC and coolant/cooling system were near completion from Friday. Today and tomorrow they will finish up with the valve covers, ignition and fuel system, wiring harness, intake manifold and VORTECH bracket and piping. Hoping by tomorrow evening the car will be completed.
The starter, AC and coolant/cooling system were near completion from Friday. Today and tomorrow they will finish up with the valve covers, ignition and fuel system, wiring harness, intake manifold and VORTECH bracket and piping. Hoping by tomorrow evening the car will be completed.
Last edited by BluestreamDE; 01-03-2017 at 08:08 PM.