Originally Posted by The Bull

Got to give it to you for following through.

I too am going to sound negative about this thread even after your comment of a Z sliding.

Answers I expect:
Old car
Got it for cheap
I had all the parts
I know how to fab
To prove a point

We see this in forums all the time, folks who just entered the world, are creative, enthusiastic about their new acquired ride, possibly their first v6 or RWD vehicle. In reality the weakest point of the Z33 is the DE engine in standard form. They do take significant work to make the power their predecessors make without forced induction.

Because of this better engine and how much more money it takes to buy a vehicle equipped with one of these engines, it has those people looking at these first gen Z33. Because of how unforgiving the DE can be to some it causes these vehicles to become junk for many except for that dreamy kid that wants to show the world their potential and live on criticism, some get themselves into this situation subconsciously and all end the same way.

If you pay attention to the OP posts, he talks about getting parts that were taken hostage at 'A house' and having 4 project cars - this screams like a divorce or rupture of a relationship because of his inability to differentiate inefficient ideas vs criticism. You then add 4 project cars? It's clear as day that some of your circuitry is out of whack? who takes 4 project cars and on one of them you want to half *** boost? Most of decently powered VQ engines are not strangers to tuners, tuning is something he would have to visit quite a bit on that supercharger which would kill his budget. Like many had guessed 5 years ago happened, the OP never got anywhere, probably doesnt even have any of those 4 cars. Lack of prioritizing his priorities eventually got the best of him.

It's a bit sad, you want to get it to click for people without sounding like a dick and pessimistic however we end up doing the math for the people by entertaining ideas just for the sake of the argument, we waste sooooo much energy and time for folks to get their feelings get the best of them.

What is even sadder is creating a profile on a forum just so you can reply off heightened emotions, swearing and name dropping thinking the scare tactics you use at home are going to work here. Sorry homie. Welcome to the real world.

As for the picture, I have to applaud commitment. I'm sure you've had quite some challenges to make it work and though it works for you it doesn't mean this is the right way to go for others. For a drift missile anything goes man however
You'll always have to fight air temps on premium octane if you're using that.
Looks like chit honestly.
Though it makes power, when you combine ALL of the efforts: Time, Money, Labor, etc. you could have done it many ways and even better ways.

Originally Posted by The Bull

The issue with this and it will always be will be heat. The stillen type intake manifold embedded coolers not even in the 370z do a good job at the back to back runs.

The VQ is already a tall engine, you're asking it to accept 5 more inches of height and barely any heat control. This can be cured with ethanol fuels and or methanol spray however this will over time lead to detonation and will require a compensating tune.
Which means you'll be bothering the tuner quite a bit. A tune for this would be $400 minimum and with these changes you'll have to fork more money or risk running it like the last tune and possibly blow it.

DE's are less forgiving than the HR/VHR.

Originally Posted by The Bull

The issue with this and it will always be will be heat. The stillen type intake manifold embedded coolers not even in the 370z do a good job at the back to back runs.
The VQ is already a tall engine, you're asking it to accept 5 more inches of height and barely any heat control. This can be cured with ethanol fuels and or methanol spray however this will over time lead to detonation and will require a compensating tune.
Which means you'll be bothering the tuner quite a bit. A tune for this would be $400 minimum and with these changes you'll have to fork more money or risk running it like the last tune and possibly blow it.
DE's are less forgiving than the HR/VHR.

Originally Posted by Mamiph

Is it an oil issue? I have read here and there that a good upgrade for a de is to switch out the oil pump for an HR version?

Originally Posted by bealljk

Yea - you look at how poor the design of the water to air cooler, it’s a huge restriction, relatively inefficient, and no wonder people swap to the air to air. I think the HR/VHR already run a little low on torque, then you reduce it’s efficiency with that heat exchanger, and rob torque off the crank to power the blower and you end up with a 600hp car that makes 450ft-lbs of peak torque …

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The DE and HR pumps are not compatible - it’s the DE and the RevUp pumps that are compatible.

Originally Posted by Mamiph

That goes for the water pump too or no?

Originally Posted by The Bull

Got to give it to you for following through.

I too am going to sound negative about this thread even after your comment of a Z sliding.

Answers I expect:
Old car
Got it for cheap
I had all the parts
I know how to fab
To prove a point

We see this in forums all the time, folks who just entered the world, are creative, enthusiastic about their new acquired ride, possibly their first v6 or RWD vehicle. In reality the weakest point of the Z33 is the DE engine in standard form. They do take significant work to make the power their predecessors make without forced induction.

Because of this better engine and how much more money it takes to buy a vehicle equipped with one of these engines, it has those people looking at these first gen Z33. Because of how unforgiving the DE can be to some it causes these vehicles to become junk for many except for that dreamy kid that wants to show the world their potential and live on criticism, some get themselves into this situation subconsciously and all end the same way.

If you pay attention to the OP posts, he talks about getting parts that were taken hostage at 'A house' and having 4 project cars - this screams like a divorce or rupture of a relationship because of his inability to differentiate inefficient ideas vs criticism. You then add 4 project cars? It's clear as day that some of your circuitry is out of whack? who takes 4 project cars and on one of them you want to half *** boost? Most of decently powered VQ engines are not strangers to tuners, tuning is something he would have to visit quite a bit on that supercharger which would kill his budget. Like many had guessed 5 years ago happened, the OP never got anywhere, probably doesnt even have any of those 4 cars. Lack of prioritizing his priorities eventually got the best of him.

It's a bit sad, you want to get it to click for people without sounding like a dick and pessimistic however we end up doing the math for the people by entertaining ideas just for the sake of the argument, we waste sooooo much energy and time for folks to get their feelings get the best of them.

What is even sadder is creating a profile on a forum just so you can reply off heightened emotions, swearing and name dropping thinking the scare tactics you use at home are going to work here. Sorry homie. Welcome to the real world.

As for the picture, I have to applaud commitment. I'm sure you've had quite some challenges to make it work and though it works for you it doesn't mean this is the right way to go for others. For a drift missile anything goes man however
You'll always have to fight air temps on premium octane if you're using that.
Looks like chit honestly.
Though it makes power, when you combine ALL of the efforts: Time, Money, Labor, etc. you could have done it many ways and even better ways.