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Old Apr 2, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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Anyone here running direct port methanol injection?
I'm about to run meth on my TT coupe and wondering where would be the best spot to mount my nozzle or nozzles?
I did this last year and didnt get the chance to run it. Now I'm worried it might not have the time to atomize properly or cool down the charge enough before going into the cylinders.
Anyone ran a similar setup before?


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Old Apr 2, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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I think you've come this far and to turn around would be foolish.

If you want another manifold to do a test comparison I have like 5 of them in the garage - would love to see a real world comparison.

what I don't like about this setup is that the charge temp (per the MAF or temp sensor) is not accounting for the water methanol.

As you know - I went pre-turbo on my twin setup with small (250cc nozzles per turbo) on my single setup I intend to go one small nozzle pre-turbo and a larger nozzle post-turbo...
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Old Apr 2, 2019 | 06:06 PM
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It will cool down the charge to 10 degrees below ambient. The tiny nozzles will also atomize just fine with a good high pressure pump. With that placement you will not be able to get an accurate temperature reading but that's not a big deal if you are just running it for safety. I ran two nozzles just before the TB and had the temp probe after the injection point. The advantage is that the cylinders that get the most air also get the most methanol.

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Old Apr 2, 2019 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bealljk
I think you've come this far and to turn around would be foolish.

If you want another manifold to do a test comparison I have like 5 of them in the garage - would love to see a real world comparison.

what I don't like about this setup is that the charge temp (per the MAF or temp sensor) is not accounting for the water methanol.

As you know - I went pre-turbo on my twin setup with small (250cc nozzles per turbo) on my single setup I intend to go one small nozzle pre-turbo and a larger nozzle post-turbo...
These are 300cc nozzles, and total of 7, 6 in the picture above and one right after the intercooler. I did 300 based on the info Aquamist provide with their kit.
Thats a spare manifold I had, so I still have a virgin manifold that I haven’t ruined yet. I just dunno if I should run this setup or just two larger nozzles right after IC before MAF. I only use the stock MAF to measure temp only since i run haltech MAP.

Did you 50/50 or 100 meth?

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It will cool down the charge to 10 degrees below ambient. The tiny nozzles will also atomize just fine with a good high pressure pump. With that placement you will not be able to get an accurate temperature reading but that's not a big deal if you are just running it for safety. I ran two nozzles just before the TB and had the temp probe after the injection point. The advantage is that the cylinders that get the most air also get the most methanol.
I’m running it for safety and power, mainly for power. Our fuel sucks here and was only able to make 580ish on pump. Hoping I can get a decent jump with methanol. I do see your point about getting even distribution if it’s injected around TB. Good point, I guess with my current setup one cylinder will get more meth than others if it didnt get the same amount of air.

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Old Apr 6, 2019 | 02:30 PM
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I'm running 6 devils own 100cc nozzles mounted on the underside.
Be sure to use a filter on the methanol injection line.
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Originally Posted by SAMzG35
Anyone here running direct port methanol injection?
I'm about to run meth on my TT coupe and wondering where would be the best spot to mount my nozzle or nozzles?
I did this last year and didnt get the chance to run it. Now I'm worried it might not have the time to atomize properly or cool down the charge enough before going into the cylinders.
Anyone ran a similar setup before?


How did this ultimately work out? I was thinking of doing something similar.
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