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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:31 AM
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I'm about to graduate college in a couple months and hopefully I will have a job lined up that pays pretty well, just waiting to hear back from them. I was hoping to get some sort of FI but the money is definately going to be a factor. What do you guys think is a good price to estimate for everything I will need for either a vortech or greddy. I've heard with the greddy, i'd be looking at around $9k or $10k but I dont think the vortech requires as much extra stuff and would be around $5k or $6k. Any thoughts, opinions?
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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Hi there,

If you are planning on getting FI then, you have to do i right. IMO, a vortech by it self in no good, it might damage the engine (lean A/F) you would need to upgrade your fuel system, and some other stuff. Another point is make sure that you add a BOV and both GReddy and Vortech do not have them.

But in any case I would go with a Turbo

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:40 AM
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What are you talking about? First off, have you seen any cars equiped with a Vortech kit damaged? No. Second off, the Vortech does come with a BOV or Bypass valve or whatever, same thing. Man too much Bullsh*t floating aroud with false information on this board. Here's some advice, don't beleive what everyone says, like this guy.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by aalzuhair
Hi there,

If you are planning on getting FI then, you have to do i right. IMO, a vortech by it self in no good, it might damage the engine (lean A/F) you would need to upgrade your fuel system, and some other stuff. Another point is make sure that you add a BOV and both GReddy and Vortech do not have them.

But in any case I would go with a Turbo

Az
There are people with the Vortech on this board who will disagree with you on you're perceived fuel issue. They are satisfied with their A/F ratio's and make good power. By the way Vortech does have a bypass valve with the kit.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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GReddy is good no doupt. But for the price, I will go with the Vortech. Running lean or not, with the extra $$ you save, go get a better fuel pump, injectors and SAFC II, and you still will have plenty left.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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aalzuhair,

I don't often say this to people on forums but you are full of crap. Every kit has its merits and the Vortech is only one of many options. However, your "info" about the Vortech kit is woefully misinformed and is a disservice to this forum.

The Vortech kit comes with an inline fuel pump, a programmable means of adjusting A/F and timing, and a BOV.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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As far as a cost comparison here is info I've got from vendors and reading around here...

Vortech - kit (polished) + install + tuning = $6000 if you wanted to add a AFC it would be $500 more. That was straight from a vendor.

Greddy TT - kit + guages + install + tuning = $10K-11K

The Vortech kit will easily out down 350-390 rwhp but the Greddy kit has a little more power potential (350-450 rwhp).
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Thanks Baumer, thats the info I was looking for.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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I've mentioned this before in another post. When comparing prices, try to seperate the actual kit/install price from all the other stuff.

Kit and Install of a Vortech is about $5500
Kit and Install of the Greddy Kit is about $7500-8500

Both kits will may need tuning, gauges, and some other elements. In my opinion, this is the best way to compare apples to apples.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Both kits will may need tuning, gauges, and some other elements. In my opinion, this is the best way to compare apples to apples.
If you do things as best you can and if you have unlimited budget for extras, I agree.

But, I think it is far more crucial to have a full guage setup on a TT than a SC. Ideally, either would have it. But you can probably can be reasonably safe with no guages on a SC car and put them on a little later. I would never take that chance on a TT car.

I think Baumer's estimate is pretty dead on... with the Vortech your looking at about $6K total. With the Greddy TT, you probably are looking at $10K total. Greddy has more potential for power and is easy to kick up a notch down the road.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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I have already spent $8k on parts alone for my greddy setup.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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I have the Greddy TT and would have to say that unless you plan on doing the work yourself, the price of the greddy kit will run you more then mabe 10k. The mods in my sig ran me about 9k and install was done by me. I do belive that the vrtech kit all in all will require less maintaince and a easier install. Both kits are good. If your looking for more HP at a good price I would say vortech. If your looking for gobbs of torque and money is not a factor go greddy. I am pretty sure you will not be upset. It is really hard to compare these two kits side by side. I am a turbo happy, boost happy freak, that is why I chose the greddy.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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I would Strongly suggest you contact the closest forum members to you that have these kits installed on their cars and get a ride yourself. Once you ride in both, you will know which one meets your needs best and then you will not second guess your decision, good luck,

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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ttsupra94,

If I have given you wrong information about the Vortech, then I'm sorry.

Thank you,
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For ravaz and zimbo who want on bashing and name-calling, that was uncalled for. I hope that you would learn to use this forum in a good way.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by aalzuhair
ttsupra94,

If I have given you wrong information about the Vortech, then I'm sorry.

Thank you,
Az

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For ravaz and zimbo who want on bashing and name-calling, that was uncalled for. I hope that you would learn to use this forum in a good way.

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aalzuhair - shhhhhh - Ravaz and Zimbo are two peeps who know how to use this board and them telling you to keep ur mouth shut does nothing but hurt your feelings and keep this board the best it can be. Its not about you its about the best this board can be.....so shhhh

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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My take....

Vortech=$4300, Install/tuning=$1000, gauges=$1000. Total=$6300+ (see below)

Greddy=$6000, Install/tuning=$2000-3000, gauges=$1000, misc parts (boost controller, exhaust, BOV, timing retard, etc.)=$1000-2000. Total=$11,000+

I think gauges should be used on both kits (including a wideband O2 sensor). An exhaust and cats/pipes should be used on both, but especially the Greddy. Same goes for a clutch, I would get one with either kit.

I like both kits, I just am not sure I want to spend another 12-15 grand on the Z, I think I would rather have a M3 (bash me if you want). Bang for the buck, I think the Vortech is the way to go, and it comes with some form of timing control, which I think is a MUST.

aalzuhair-- While I agree that name calling is not good for the forum, niether is misinformation. If you don't know, don't post.... I am not directing this solely at you, but I see a lot of misinformation spread in the forums.
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Originally posted by fluidz
aalzuhair - shhhhhh - Ravaz and Zimbo are two peeps who know how to use this board and them telling you to keep ur mouth shut does nothing but hurt your feelings and keep this board the best it can be. Its not about you its about the best this board can be.....so shhhh
This forum was made to exchange information and ideas.......

fluidz, You are a very angry man. I would suggest taking some Prozac to help you relax and cope with life. I really feel sorry for you and the people around you……
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Originally posted by jran76
aalzuhair-- While I agree that name calling is not good for the forum, niether is misinformation. If you don't know, don't post.... I am not directing this solely at you, but I see a lot of misinformation spread in the forums.
Point well taken, we all learn
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Originally posted by g356gear
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This fluidz guy is unbelievable next thing you know it, I walk out of my home and find him there
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