Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

Stock Vortech Maps

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-13-2004 | 08:05 AM
  #61  
fluidz's Avatar
fluidz
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 794
Likes: 0
From: Vortechville,CA
Default

Originally posted by zimbo
"500rpm AND 1psi" doesn't make sense to me because you'll never ever see 1psi at 500 rpms. Might as well set it to 2500 rpms and 1psi. Of course my setting of "3000rpm OR 2.9psi" doesn't make sense either because 3000rpm is always going to be the turn-on trigger.

--Steve
Zimbo....you need the box checked "RPM and Pressure" basically meaning both need to be acheived in order for your settings to kick in. 500rpm and 1psi your fuel pump will not start untill you hit 1psi regardless of RPM as it obviously will be more than 500rpm after that A/F ratios are maintained completely by rpm, timing is controlled by RPM and PSI........


"RPM and Pressure".......the key word in that is "AND"

Hope this helps!
Old 04-13-2004 | 08:30 AM
  #62  
350zer's Avatar
350zer
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: so cal
Default

Originally posted by fluidz
Zimbo....you need the box checked "RPM and Pressure" basically meaning both need to be acheived in order for your settings to kick in. 500rpm and 1psi your fuel pump will not start untill you hit 1psi regardless of RPM as it obviously will be more than 500rpm after that A/F ratios are maintained completely by rpm, timing is controlled by RPM and PSI........


"RPM and Pressure".......the key word in that is "AND"

Hope this helps!
that is correct fluidz. it is for safety. both numbers have to be met for the pump to turn on. its so the pump does'nt turn on when you turn the key on or are just sitting there with the motor running.
Old 04-13-2004 | 08:47 AM
  #63  
tig488's Avatar
tig488
New Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 4,660
Likes: 0
From: bama
Default

im setting mine at 1500rpms, and 1.0 psi, thats what split second recommended

no wonder all my runs i was REAL rich, my damn fuel pump was on continuously, no wonder my mpg sucks too.

zimbo, no those other variables arent needed, dont mess with those.

oh i cant wait to try the dyno this weekend with that map giving me 20-30 more hp/tq,

400HP HERE I COME---WOO HOO!
Old 04-13-2004 | 08:53 AM
  #64  
fluidz's Avatar
fluidz
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 794
Likes: 0
From: Vortechville,CA
Default

Originally posted by tig488
im setting mine at 1500rpms, and 1.0 psi, thats what split second recommended

no wonder all my runs i was REAL rich, my damn fuel pump was on continuously, no wonder my mpg sucks too.

zimbo, no those other variables arent needed, dont mess with those.

oh i cant wait to try the dyno this weekend with that map giving me 20-30 more hp/tq,

400HP HERE I COME---WOO HOO!

Go get-umm Tiger!!!!!!
Old 04-13-2004 | 11:13 AM
  #65  
IceY2K1Max's Avatar
IceY2K1Max
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 427
Likes: 0
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

The Vortech comes with an aux fuel pump, correct? Is that the ONLY fuel enrichment used, ie NO injectors, correct? What lph is it?

If I'm understanding "Gauge Pressure" correctly, that's what your in-cabin gauge and what the dyno shows, correct? However, the left PSI column values on BOTH maps can't be the same or the Maps don't really make sense to me.

If it was the same, for vacuum-8.5psi they added only 2% fuel, then for 9.0-10.0psi 0%?!?!

For 10.5psi@2000rpm-26psi@5500rpm BLOCK they add in 2%, 4%, 6%, 7%, 10%, 13%, etc. at different RPM like they were tuning for that operating range. I think that BLOCK is where tuning occurs, ie add atomospheric pressure, for the internal 2.5bar sensor that some FTC1s come with maybe?

Also, Vortech goes back to 0%(10.0) for 6000-8000rpm, because the aux fuel pump provides excess fuel and they want it rich by the AFR chart dipping into the low-mid 10s, so no correction is used.

On Map B for Timing, assuming the same PSI theory, I would increase the timing retard value as PSI increases also. Depending on what you want your FINAL max retard to be at X-psi, I'd do something like this:

(PSI,RPM,Degree Retard)
-------------------------------
(08.5, 5000, 1.0)|(08.5, 5500, 2.0)|(08.5, 6000, 3.0)...
(09.0, 5000, 1.1)|(09.0, 5500, 2.1)|(09.0, 6000, 3.1)...
(09.5, 5000, 1.2)|(09.5, 5500, 2.2)|(09.5, 6000, 3.2)...
(10.0, 5000, 1.3)|(10.0, 5500, 2.3)|(10.0, 6000, 3.3)...
.
.
.
(26.0, 5000, 4.5)|(26.0, 5500, 5.5)|(26.0, 6000, 6.5)...


However, since SC guys are pulley limited, it's probably not necessary.
Old 04-13-2004 | 11:23 AM
  #66  
IceY2K1Max's Avatar
IceY2K1Max
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 427
Likes: 0
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

Here...this might help you see what BLOCK I'm seeing(lower yellow block):



[edit]Sorry, didn't come out too good.[/edit]

Last edited by IceY2K1Max; 04-13-2004 at 11:29 AM.
Old 04-13-2004 | 11:38 AM
  #67  
IceY2K1Max's Avatar
IceY2K1Max
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 427
Likes: 0
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

Timing Map:
Old 04-13-2004 | 11:58 AM
  #68  
fluidz's Avatar
fluidz
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 794
Likes: 0
From: Vortechville,CA
Default

those charts where uploaded with the default settings not set correctly so they are hard to make sense of.
Old 04-13-2004 | 12:04 PM
  #69  
IceY2K1Max's Avatar
IceY2K1Max
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 427
Likes: 0
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

Can you take new pictures in the correct "mode" please.

Thanks.
Old 04-13-2004 | 01:53 PM
  #70  
fluidz's Avatar
fluidz
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 794
Likes: 0
From: Vortechville,CA
Default

Originally posted by IceY2K1Max
Can you take new pictures in the correct "mode" please.

Thanks.

Yes I will tonight for you and post here.
Old 04-13-2004 | 02:38 PM
  #71  
baptist's Avatar
baptist
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 664
Likes: 0
From: England
Default

Well, I hope my car runs okay out of the box with the vortech, as all this talk about the program is going over my head sometimes.
Nobody in the UK has used this program yet, so finding a tuner to get his head round it may be costly.
Old 04-14-2004 | 09:15 AM
  #72  
IceY2K1Max's Avatar
IceY2K1Max
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 427
Likes: 0
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

Any progress?

Thanks.

Originally posted by fluidz
Yes I will tonight for you and post here.
Old 07-29-2004 | 08:08 PM
  #73  
gspot35's Avatar
gspot35
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
From: Northern Virginia
Default

How do I get a copy of R4 software?
Old 07-29-2004 | 08:33 PM
  #74  
freezeg35's Avatar
freezeg35
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
From: vancouver bc canada
Default

Ya gotta buy it, or maybe someone here will lend it to you. Price has gone up to 40.00 usd. Kinda pi$$ed me off when i spend all this cash on a vortech and dont get the software included.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sales@czp
Engine
33
09-23-2019 03:30 PM
hajwoj
Autocross/Road
27
11-01-2015 05:25 PM
2ndchanceZ
Engine
1
10-26-2015 08:03 PM



Quick Reply: Stock Vortech Maps



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:33 AM.