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Old May 2, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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There will be some nice traps for sure! But pending a dyno chart and lots of traction, I sure hope we aren't going to see supra-like massive HP making so-so ETs.

I have faith in the VQ, I don't think we will!
Oh they will have as much traction as you can possibaly get as they plan on installing the veilside widebody kit!!! Probably fit some 335's 345's undey that bad boy!!!
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Old May 2, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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I don't know about using DSM injectors on an SR20, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that they are not being used on any 300ZX with success. Sorry, but there is no cheap upgrade as far as injectors go on the Z32.
The SR20, 300zx, Sentra, and 3.0 Maxima use the same injectors.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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Any1 heard any new info on this. Talking to some of the younger scene and heard the number of 595whp@11psi being thrown around??? Sounds like rice reasoning...

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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:19 AM
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that would have to be a v8 for 595@11 the z gets roughly 20 for 1 psi so 11psi=460whp?

(11*20)+240=x

skidazzle hit 454 at 10 so this is about accurate
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Juztin
Any1 heard any new info on this. Talking to some of the younger scene and heard the number of 595whp@11psi being thrown around??? Sounds like rice reasoning...
yea thats ricer math for sure .. i dont have much more info at the moment but check out this link click on it and then you will see t small 350 z pics at bottom of the page click on the left one (white one) and check out the article!!!!!
http://www.bouldernissan.com/en_US/
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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I'll nag some ppl about that 590 number, just curious cause I remember they said they made the original numbers (507&545) at like 4600 rpm. Wonder what they would of hit at 6600? lol. Anyhow, even tuned for 11psi, I could not see the block putting out 595 wheel, prove me wrong please
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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lol it could be done at 11psi but it would be a very large single turbo to put out those numbers and it would probably be at about 5500 rpms due to excessive lag
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Old May 7, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by PoWeRtRiP
lol it could be done at 11psi but it would be a very large single turbo to put out those numbers and it would probably be at about 5500 rpms due to excessive lag
You are forgetting that 11 psi is 11psi no matter what what sized turbo single or twin if you are netting 11 psi thats it nothing else matters.

Its like what weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of iron ......a pound is a pound.

That being said the only other variable is displacement of which we dont have enough of to make 590 rwhp @ 11 psi. we would probably need 20-21 psi if my figuring is correct.

Ive seen several z06 vetts with vortec or procharger kits putting around 550 rwhp @8-9 psi so if you fed one of those motors with 11 psi you could probably get to the 590-600 rwhp @ 11psi

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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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New results are in 595 hp & 511 ft. lbs. torque at 14 psi. I will post a graph ASAP. More fuel upgrades are still needed(fuel pump, return line, etc). Eric-Boulder nissan motorsports
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Old May 7, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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You are forgetting that 11 psi is 11psi no matter what what sized turbo single or twin if you are netting 11 psi thats it nothing else matters.

Its like what weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of iron ......a pound is a pound.

That being said the only other variable is displacement of which we dont have enough of to make 590 rwhp @ 11 psi. we would probably need 20-21 psi if my figuring is correct.

Ive seen several z06 vetts with vortec or procharger kits putting around 550 rwhp @8-9 psi so if you fed one of those motors with 11 psi you could probably get to the 590-600 rwhp @ 11psi

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i am sorry to say that you are wrong

10 psi out of a t25 is the equivalent of about 3 psi in a t78 (rough guess) it goes like this a turbo flows air right? well the amount of air it flows is based on the size of the compressor, then that amount of air is pressurized to a certain degree. a large turbo will produce the same power at a low psi that a small one would at high psi just because the compressor is much larger on the big one. i think its called cfm (the amount of air that it flows) and is generally measured by the a/r of a turbo. im sure someone else will chime in and explain this more for you as im not the best at pointing out the details
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Old May 7, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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what size injectors?
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Old May 7, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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650cc injectors from RC Engineering
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Old May 7, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by SQUILL
You are forgetting that 11 psi is 11psi no matter what what sized turbo single or twin if you are netting 11 psi thats it nothing else matters.

Its like what weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of iron ......a pound is a pound.

That being said the only other variable is displacement of which we dont have enough of to make 590 rwhp @ 11 psi. we would probably need 20-21 psi if my figuring is correct.

Ive seen several z06 vetts with vortec or procharger kits putting around 550 rwhp @8-9 psi so if you fed one of those motors with 11 psi you could probably get to the 590-600 rwhp @ 11psi

my $.02
If that is the case then explain this. With my old car, 99 civic si ls/vtec, I was running 15psi and getting 325 to the wheels. Now this was with a T3/T04E turbocharger from turbonetics. I bought a SC61 turbo from Precision and with that turbo at 10 pounds I was putting down the same numbers. PSI has nothing to do with it. It just a measurable number. Flow and pressure are two different animals. If you put a larger wheel andbetter flowing turbo it is very possible to net larger numbers at the same boost pressure setting. I know it is cause I have done this very thing with my civic. I ended up with 370 at the wheels on 15psi with the precision turbo.
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You're not running an eManage then, right?

If you are, how are you controlling that big of injectors, especially at idle and cold startup?


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Old May 10, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by bldrz
New results are in 595 hp & 511 ft. lbs. torque at 14 psi. I will post a graph ASAP. More fuel upgrades are still needed(fuel pump, return line, etc). Eric-Boulder nissan motorsports
This is the most powerfull 350z that ive heard of yet!!!!! Keep us posted!!!!!
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Old May 10, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1Max
You're not running an eManage then, right?

If you are, how are you controlling that big of injectors, especially at idle and cold startup?
I've seen the car i think you mean the E-o1 controller unit that connects to the e-manage...
E manage is the piggy back computer that every greddy kit comes with and needs to run at all.

The car does have the e-01 unit installed in it so im assuming they are controlling the injectors with it unless they changed something..
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I'm just asking how they configured the eManage piggyback that comes with the Greddy kit to run that large of injectors.

Also, if they lowered the compression ratio, what changes were necessary?

The e01 is a boost controller and display in one, I think, but requires the eManage, so I think you answered my first post on if they are running the eManage as a yes. Just wanting to confirm that and if all they did was adjust the injector size value and it worked for the 650s.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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I heard one of the boulder Z's ran at the track last weekend. Can someone confirm this? And what Z was it? I heard the Z ran high 14's.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by pimpjuice
I heard one of the boulder Z's ran at the track last weekend. Can someone confirm this? And what Z was it? I heard the Z ran high 14's.
I havent heard anything but a stock 350z would run high 14's
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Interested to know how they manage to get the e-manage to control the 650cc. Was it just using the scaling for the injector size? Also how is the idle? If this works that's great news that the e-manage can handle large injectors.
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