He didnt give me a part list, but all i want to do is be able to beat most cars on the road, and i want to get the 0-60 time under 4 seconds. I could put 20k into just the engine but i dont know how much hp that would equate to. I would prefer to spend only 15k though, but with 15k could i eclipse the 500hp mark?

 

15k no maybe 17-18k bare bones you could hit 500 hp however you coulndt use it.

5000 roughly for engine parts
1500 750 cc injectors
6000 for the turbo kit
1000 for profec e0-1 ,walbro 255 , aem reg, BOV
4000 , labor , misc parts.

you would still need clutch, wheels/tires, wideband a/f meter, nismo solid rear diff, exaust, guages, tuning, upgraded fuel system...

there wouldnt be any point i think of building the motor for 500 hp + without building the rest of the car to match .


you could spend 15k for 430-450hp but for more plan on 25k -30 k total cost

 

If you did the turbo install yourself, you may be able to get away with forged components and tuning. But that doesn't take into account the clutch which you will probably blow on the dyno when you go to tune it if you actually get forged internals the first time around.

 

Squill, who makes the 750cc injectors?

 

Thanks guy's for all your help with this. So your saying that with 15k i could get around 450hp. Now what products do i need to achieve it and what turbo kit would be best? Thanks again

-Carl

 

IMHO if you cut out engine parts and just get the greddy TT kit and then get all the other stuff you were talking about you could get away with it. The stock limited slip is not the best but it could do the job for the time being...you could easily get up to 450 rwhp at the wheels with that setup, now you are at the limit of the engine on stock enternals so I would actually run at 430rwhp if i could just to be more safe but still 430rwhp at the wheels is ZO6 status all this would be around 15k total and you would have a more complete car which i think Squill was talking about and agree with him it is important to make the car more well rounded not just have engine work. See their are other things your aren't considering as well...but before I list those and get you all woried let me ask you this what are you going to do with this car??? Do track duty or are you going to use it for a daily driver and street light racing?

 

My question since it is a cost question...which ones work the best and at a good price...cause i could quote you some really nice gauges and crap like that you don't need. Also some installers if you are buying this all at the same place can get better pricing on a certain brand then another find out who is going to install first i would think.

 

Greddy makes 720 CC injectors as well as blitz makes 800cc injectors i believe...however I believe if i remember correctly Boulder nissan is going to use RC injectos as well as another car i read about here is going to use RC injectors. Check it out

http://www.hopupracing.com/rcinjectors.html

 

I agree that the car needs to be well rounded but thats the kind of info that i need. I know that im going to have to replace/upgrade some of the drivetrain compontens, but what im trying to find out is what parts do i need to achieve this 430-450rwhp. This car is going to be used as a show car more then anything (just want the power for braggin rights against my dad as well), so i wont be tapping into the power that much, but it has to be reliable.

 

I'm suprised that no one has even given this guy a rb26dett engine swap option. it would be far less cheaper to work with out of those then to build up the vq35. you could remove most of the reinforcement and go with a better turbo. the tranny should be able to handle the load, and since you have to take the motor out for the turbo install on the vq anyway the labor should be about the same. You would also make far more HP then the vq35 with far less trouble in having to reinforce the engine to with stand higher HP.

so far from what i have seen if this motor you can put down around 450 with out HUGE motor work, but anything higher then that and it's going to end up costing way to much. that is not a big suprise that places like TOP SECRET didn't use the VQ35, and other drag racing setup cars don't use it either. i guess for high HP setups an inline iron block is the way to go.

 

to get the rb swapped in and 450 whp would actually be more expensive, yes it would heres why

cost of skyline front clip ~6000
including virgin harness, tranny, and engine, etx

install cost for a gt-s tranny and engine ~4000
this is not an easy swap requires complete new engine harness mounts and mods to the firewall to make fit, i am also not sure if the driveshaft will work with the gt-s tranny so you may need to add about 1000 to the cost

install for gt-r tranny ~7000 needs brand new cv-axles, axles, half shaft, diffs, suspesion comp, mods to all sorts of stuff to make it fit, awd is a different beast altogether.

now im not sure on the specs of the gt-r stock but it makes say 280hp crank, lets assume that the stock turboes are good to 450whp (which i doubt) you would need all new fuel system (even the stock z system couldnt do that much) 1500, electronics like gauges, emanage, etc 1000, then your gonna need an exh, dp, and all the other goodies to make it work right. so it would end up being as much if not more expensive to do a swap.

 

just as an option ill say this... if u just want 450 ish hp.... and wont be using it that often and want your car to be a show car, why not just get NOS? Many people are running 150 or 175 shot without much problems. Just make sure to get all the safe gaurds, and thatll net u over 400 rwhp. Thatll probably save u about 13000 dollars... 13000 dollars more to make ur car into an ever sicker show car... Thats what id do if money was of the issue and u were making a show car. with drag slicks u should be able to run LOW 12'z maybe even high 11z no problem. Anyways gl wtih your project.

 

Or you could spend 6-6500 inc labor to build the block and a direct port nitrous system 1500-2000 and run GIANT shots through the motor !!!!! Thats pretty cool and all but its more fun to have the extra power on hand constantly!!!!!! But if all you were into was drag ET's that would be pretty cool.

 

I have one more question for you guys which TT setup do you think is best, greddy, jwi, pe, ultimate racing, or should i wait for the aps one?

 

Unless you get greddy or PE you have to wait for any of the others. I like the APS system it looks to be very high quality and of course with garrett BB turbos its responsiveness should be great. I havent heard too much info lately on the ulimate racing or JWT. Im sure the Jwt system will be a great kit but there is like 0 info out there on this kit.

After talking with aps quite a bit and researching their stuff online i personally am going to wait for the APS system.

 

Interesting, most systems that have been posted here are going with the greddy tuned at 8psi and running around 400rwhp. Some have done this for like 9 grand or less. Why are you guys saying he needs 15K to do this, when others are doing it for less??

 

the extra money is for wheels tires, exaust, and clutch.

 

a lot of the guys that got the tt kit already had an exh and cat pipes. he will need to get all sorts of stuff like gauges, fuel, plugs, etc. the 9k will only buy a tt kit, install, and tuning, but you wont get all that much power out of it without upgrading other things

 

why would you want to run more than 450 RWHP anyways? if you run quicker than 12's your *** is getting kicked out of the track regardless.... (safety mods - rollcage,etc)

I would just get a well-tuned Greddy TT w/ all the goodies and new wheels and tires... and call it a day...