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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Also notice how happy he is knowing that his motor blew. "whohoo toasted a motor today" Sounds like its just BS. If i were to blow up my motor i would be very sad and dissapointed, not excited and happy that it happened.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Yeah I want to see some pics too. If it is true, what spark plugs were you running?
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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it might not be his motor could be a customers. why dont you guys try calling him


btw the address is legit i verified it via usps.com

but i couldnt match the name and phone number by yellow pages.


link to streetryde site
site looks legit and has a guy named nick working there.

checks out ok

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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I agree with gq and squill, I call BS. Every dyno that I have seen with the straight bolt on has ran an a/f or 11.5 or richer. I just don't see how greddy would send out an unprogramed e manage. maybe but doubt it.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by PoWeRtRiP
it might not be his motor could be a customers. why dont you guys try calling him


btw the address is legit i verified it via usps.com

but i couldnt match the name and phone number by yellow pages.


link to streetryde site
site looks legit and has a guy named nick working there.

checks out ok
Thanks go out to special agent PoWeRtRiP.. It does look legit...

Now Nick please post some details and pics this will be much appreciated by all!
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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Blow it up, Build it up, Blow it up. That's the name of the game.

The only way you would get an af that high is if the emanage was not getting a RPM signal or was not soldered to each injector trigger properly. Woo Hoo, You screwed yourself.

But in this guys defence, I know someone installing a GReddy kit on his G. His egt's hit 850C on the first run, no motor damage. He checked the emanage and it did not have anything programed into the maps. Once I gave him the base Greddy map his G was running well.

That monday motor thing is BS aswell, Factory workers get tore up every night, not just on the weekends. :P
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Remember the ATI blow-ups?
Oh hel1 yeah I remember them ha-ha!

I can laugh now but *at the time* I was mad as hel! !!!

I still want pics, all I am saying is the shop exists in my city.
To just drop one post and leave isn't cool though we in the FI section want pics and data man.

No pics then
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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The reason some people are saying that the "emanage doesn have a map loaded", is becuase they are "updated" with their Profec on the installation, and you are updating with a blank map! The Profec has no maps. This happened to Tony, Derek, and one other person. The eManage box has a map...no question...but when you hook up the Profec, and update...sometimes without even knowing...then you wipe out the map.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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Sounds confusing, glad I went with the SCer ha-ha. Plug N PLay with Techtom.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by 12SecZ
Oh hel1 yeah I remember them ha-ha!

I can laugh now but *at the time* I was mad as hel! !!!

I still want pics, all I am saying is the shop exists in my city.
To just drop one post and leave isn't cool though we in the FI section want pics and data man.

No pics then
<observes the B.S. flag and salutes> C'mon Nick post the goods!
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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OK guys, this is for real. I live in the Sacramento area also along with 12SecZ. He had some real issues that are legit......at least he knows what he is doing. This occured on his G35, not a Z, so he suspects heat issues with the fuel system, but I'll let him elaborate on that and everything else. I discussed building my motor with him and his suggestions are valid. I plan on going to his shop this week to check out the store and meet him. He keeps his shop separate from the storefront. Anyway, I look forward to meeting him and seeing what happened!

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by scubasteve
OK guys, this is for real. I live in the Sacramento area also along with 12SecZ. He had some real issues that are legit......at least he knows what he is doing. This occured on his G35, not a Z, so he suspects heat issues with the fuel system, but I'll let him elaborate on that and everything else. I discussed building my motor with him and his suggestions are valid. I plan on going to his shop this week to check out the store and meet him. He keeps his shop separate from the storefront. Anyway, I look forward to meeting him and seeing what happened!
i'm actually kinda surprised that i get all these responses.

i run a 11-8 storefront all day so i don't really have time to surf the web and post a response right away.

if you call bs so be it. i'll just put everything together into one post and leave it at that.

blowing a new motor that i've never had a chance to dig into is morbidly fun for me. as blowing 4g63ts get boring. and i did contact greddy and to sum it up "the update will not wipe the map if it is updated properly. the only way to wipe the map is to initialize the emanage through the e-01 to 'clear' the password"

i never even had the password lock to begin with.

so if you're in the sacramento area and would like to visit my humble shop feel free to do so. and as soon as i have the time i will put together a full web report of everything on my website for reference.

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Nick,
So when ya gonna sell the Greddy You busy Friday? I'd like to come down and say hi. You'll get my support here, even though you know 100x more than I do about these engines! People on the internet are always skeptical, as I am guilty of. My main reason for calling you was to talk about building/ tuning my VQ and which route to go.

Talk to you later,
Steven M. Krohn
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by scubasteve
Nick,
So when ya gonna sell the Greddy You busy Friday? I'd like to come down and say hi. You'll get my support here, even though you know 100x more than I do about these engines! People on the internet are always skeptical, as I am guilty of. My main reason for calling you was to talk about building/ tuning my VQ and which route to go.

Talk to you later,
Steven M. Krohn
i'll be at the elk grove store friday all day.

i'm pulling the intake manis off atm... oil/coolant mix is purdee ><

i will have pics for the skeptical
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Nick,

No offense but it really makes you look bad if you own a performance shop and blow up a simple kit like the greddy. Blowing a motor is not what I would want to here if I had a shop do an install. The only reason people are being so skeptical is that at 6psi, this kit will not blow up the motor unless the install was done wrong. I also highly doubt that greddy would ship a blank emanage, possible but doubt it. I have a friend that works for options auto salon and has never run into this problem.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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come on nick read what you have posted.

First you say rock solid A/f @ 12.4 then its in the 13's
second you say you pull timing at 5 psi ...maybe you mean 5000 rpms?
Third you say a rod is sticking through the block but you need to talk to a machine shop to see if u need a whole new motor.

You only have a few posts to go off of and it doesnt look like you know what u r talking about.

Maybe u were rushing the posts u made but read through them and u will see what i mean.

Dont be offended Nick its just that we see so many 1 post wonders here with wild claims of this and that so forgive me if i seem to brash or skepticle.

Seriously though i would like to see pics and an explaination of what happened because i believe we can all learn from this experience.

One thing puzzles me though as you say you have new internals on order ...why get rid of the turbos??? I mean come on that greddy kit is good for 600 hp+ on a built block with all the other necessary upgrades!

So im not just trying to antagonize you at all please if you have useful inf we would all like to see it!
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by SQUILL
come on nick read what you have posted.

First you say rock solid A/f @ 12.4 then its in the 13's
second you say you pull timing at 5 psi ...maybe you mean 5000 rpms?
Third you say a rod is sticking through the block but you need to talk to a machine shop to see if u need a whole new motor.

You only have a few posts to go off of and it doesnt look like you know what u r talking about.

Maybe u were rushing the posts u made but read through them and u will see what i mean.

Dont be offended Nick its just that we see so many 1 post wonders here with wild claims of this and that so forgive me if i seem to brash or skepticle.

Seriously though i would like to see pics and an explaination of what happened because i believe we can all learn from this experience.

One thing puzzles me though as you say you have new internals on order ...why get rid of the turbos??? I mean come on that greddy kit is good for 600 hp+ on a built block with all the other necessary upgrades!

So im not just trying to antagonize you at all please if you have useful inf we would all like to see it!
i'm still trying to figure out why it blew up. and i am honestly running thru a billion things in my head so my posts might be unintelligible. Between running a retail store and trying to find enough time in the day to think straight about my own personal stuff is pretty difficult for me. i may need to go to find my dyno sheets to show you exactly what the dyno af meter was saying.

i'm mentally out of it. i'm still undecided on whether i will keep the car turboed or fix the internals. car only has 5400 miles on it so i don't know what i'll do.. i may just hook up the haltech e6k i have sitting in the garage that i had extra and attempt to push higher hp.

Spazpilot say whatver you want unless you've been in the racing world and see people who spend days upon days tuning a race car no matter how simple or how complex motors get nuked everyday. i know i have many friends who race from simple side racers to super stock and pro modified. any simple mechanical failure can happen and cause a motor to go, and how you highly doubt greddy screws up you should talk to my warehouse who holds 70% of the total greddy market on the west coast.

but what do i know i'm just a simple "riceboy" shop owner.

i wont say i'm the best tuner out there in the world but hey $hit happens..

could be an injector failure, electronics snafu, or maybe even bad installation. but to be honest i do get frustrated with people who enjoy being combatitive on the internet. i'm not here to create flames or troll. i'm just pointing out that hey.. my motor is toast.

if need be i'll just refrain from posting on the board.

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Nick@StreetRyde
if need be i'll just refrain from posting on the board.
no that is not the answer if you have valuble info to share it will be appreciated by all and posting here can be a good way to gain new business.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Just my two bits.

This blown motor issue does not have the ring of truth. I tend to give people the benifit of the doubt. However, given the inconsistancy of these posts and the negative comments of well known posters, I think the burdon of proof is on Nick. If you really want to help us all and have credibility, take the time to put a well thoughtout post together (with supporting documentation).

What is the point of this forum if not to share USEFUL information?

This kind of thread without any real evidence is a disservice to anyone trying to make a decision between FI or not or what kind of FI.

Please be respectful of all those people that rely of these forums for GOOD info.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Houston G35
Just my two bits.

This blown motor issue does not have the ring of truth. I tend to give people the benifit of the doubt. However, given the inconsistancy of these posts and the negative comments of well known posters, I think the burdon of proof is on Nick. If you really want to help us all and have credibility, take the time to put a well thoughtout post together (with supporting documentation).

What is the point of this forum if not to share USEFUL information?

This kind of thread without any real evidence is a disservice to anyone trying to make a decision between FI or not or what kind of FI.

Please be respectful of all those people that rely of these forums for GOOD info.

Amen.....exactly....agree 100%

Your initial post does nothing for us..and does nothing but make us question your authenticity. Take a few days...whatever...and put everything together in a logical fashion. If your intention is to help us learn...terrific...

Now, you say the eManage was locked?? Then how did you adjust the timing? This is why I assumed you downloaded/updated the Profecs contents to the eManage...this will wipe out maps..since the Profec data card is blank. Again, by the structure of your comments, it appears you dont have a clue about how to tune or access the eManage....you arent making yourself look really good here..and you are running a business.

And by the way....I know the second largest wholesaler of Greddy products on the west coast. I have plenty of contacts there....and NOBODY has heard of a preprogrammed eManage coming blank from the factory.
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