woohoo toasted a motor today
Originally posted by gq_626
The ECU drives the coils. Same reasoning behind the eManage. The reason the eManage can retard timing and add IPW is becuase it has drivers for both.
The ECU drives the coils. Same reasoning behind the eManage. The reason the eManage can retard timing and add IPW is becuase it has drivers for both.
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Originally posted by Nick@StreetRyde
its the greddy oil pan.
thanks joe nismo. i think i'm going to replace the ignition, redo the fuel system, and redo the intake plenum.
but for the plugs i was running lfr6aix-11 the iridiums.
soo...
from what i've put together from the pieces i remember. (since i haven't actually touched the car in 2 days to get the e-01 data) i may have tuned it too lean with not enough timing retard. since it was cyl 5 i "assume" since i did not have 6 egt probes it may have been running lean in that cyl even when i had it at a 12.4 af ratio out the tailpipe on the wbo2.
hopefully when i get a chance to pull the heads off i can really see the conditions of the motor.
Off to work more info this weekend
its the greddy oil pan.
thanks joe nismo. i think i'm going to replace the ignition, redo the fuel system, and redo the intake plenum.
but for the plugs i was running lfr6aix-11 the iridiums.
soo...
from what i've put together from the pieces i remember. (since i haven't actually touched the car in 2 days to get the e-01 data) i may have tuned it too lean with not enough timing retard. since it was cyl 5 i "assume" since i did not have 6 egt probes it may have been running lean in that cyl even when i had it at a 12.4 af ratio out the tailpipe on the wbo2.
hopefully when i get a chance to pull the heads off i can really see the conditions of the motor.
Off to work more info this weekend
Originally posted by ACP
That is why I was asking....
That is why I was asking....
i have a cast aluminum pan with the words "greddy" on it. i'm tired of these idiotic posts.
i quit posting on these boards.
if you have any "real concern" of what happened you can email me.
nick@streetrydeperformance.com
i will no longer be checking these forums.
Come on, Man. Don't leave. All of us FI guys can use as much info on a blown motor as possible. So let us know when you figure out what happened.
And by the way, where did you get the pan? (Seriously) I like the APS pan that's coming out and the pic of the pan that you posted looked similar. (interior baffles, etc.) Does it have any exterior fins or additional oil capacity?
And by the way, where did you get the pan? (Seriously) I like the APS pan that's coming out and the pic of the pan that you posted looked similar. (interior baffles, etc.) Does it have any exterior fins or additional oil capacity?
HAH! you guys are like a wet dream gone bad.
Before all the facts are laid out the POSERS are already beating up the post and yelling BS.
Here was someone willing to divulge about his disasterous install, regardless of where fault would be found. Before he could even complete his diagnosis the losers were already flexing their egos.
Good going, now we can all benefit less from your contributions to this post.
Before all the facts are laid out the POSERS are already beating up the post and yelling BS.
Here was someone willing to divulge about his disasterous install, regardless of where fault would be found. Before he could even complete his diagnosis the losers were already flexing their egos.
Good going, now we can all benefit less from your contributions to this post.
Everyone,
Bad or incomplete info = useless and worse yet misinformation (this hurts us all)
Good well thought out info = benefit to us all
I can certainly see how Nick may have been less than thorough at first because of his dismay at the entire ordeal. However, as this thread has developed, it seems clear that a lot of people have simply taken a defensive position for Nick.
My suggestion is to use this as an academic exercise and not be offended by questions. Please realize that most of us are sincere and really do want to learn from this situation. Can we all be adults and control our emotions. Let a open and honest flow of information continue.
Nick,
I want you to know that I am truly sorry that this happened to you. I know it was a real disappointment and financial lose. Please keep a thick skin and help us all learn. I am sure you have read many posts from GQ and Squill. As such, it is clear these guys are sincere and truly interested in learning from all valid sources.
Bad or incomplete info = useless and worse yet misinformation (this hurts us all)
Good well thought out info = benefit to us all
I can certainly see how Nick may have been less than thorough at first because of his dismay at the entire ordeal. However, as this thread has developed, it seems clear that a lot of people have simply taken a defensive position for Nick.
My suggestion is to use this as an academic exercise and not be offended by questions. Please realize that most of us are sincere and really do want to learn from this situation. Can we all be adults and control our emotions. Let a open and honest flow of information continue.
Nick,
I want you to know that I am truly sorry that this happened to you. I know it was a real disappointment and financial lose. Please keep a thick skin and help us all learn. I am sure you have read many posts from GQ and Squill. As such, it is clear these guys are sincere and truly interested in learning from all valid sources.
Originally posted by ACP
That is why I was asking....
That is why I was asking....
I was merly trying to find out what was different from your kit, then mine (and others)
I noticed the oil pan not the same as the GReddy one I installed
i would just like to let everyone know my frustrations.
I'm trying to post info as i get it as i don't have time to drop everything and work on the car.
the frustrating this is how everyone seems to second guess everything i have posted and treat me like a troll. i expected more from a performance community. i wqas not going to check the boards till my friend pointed out that i should post the picture of the oil pan so i will
as i said my kit seems to be the newest variation of the kit.
anyways. i'm going back to work.
Nick
I'm trying to post info as i get it as i don't have time to drop everything and work on the car.
the frustrating this is how everyone seems to second guess everything i have posted and treat me like a troll. i expected more from a performance community. i wqas not going to check the boards till my friend pointed out that i should post the picture of the oil pan so i will
as i said my kit seems to be the newest variation of the kit.
anyways. i'm going back to work.
Nick
Hey Nick,
You don't have to prove yourself here. Some apreciate your ultimimate findings when you are done. I know that small shops don't have all day to post we just like the info but feel free to take your time and fu*k the oil pan lol.
I am more interested in cylinder 5 findings, totality of damage when you break down the block specificly if it scorched the walls etc.
I suspect a lean condition with the timing being off, you are not the first and won't be the last.
Take your time, welcome to the board and let us know your findings so we can review them. Lots of us have FI concerns, I know I do!
Peas!
You don't have to prove yourself here. Some apreciate your ultimimate findings when you are done. I know that small shops don't have all day to post we just like the info but feel free to take your time and fu*k the oil pan lol.
I am more interested in cylinder 5 findings, totality of damage when you break down the block specificly if it scorched the walls etc.
I suspect a lean condition with the timing being off, you are not the first and won't be the last.
Take your time, welcome to the board and let us know your findings so we can review them. Lots of us have FI concerns, I know I do!
Peas!
The oil pan interests me because if GReddy has improved the design I'd like to know. I am about to install the JWT spacer so now would be the time to switch it out.
This is my first car that I'm taking past BPU, I am in no position to question anyone else's abilities or credibility.
-D
This is my first car that I'm taking past BPU, I am in no position to question anyone else's abilities or credibility.
-D
Yeah, Greddy has mad some improvements to the original kit.
1) The downpipes are non one piece solid....mine were were welded and slightly tapered. The newer ones are one nice piece...no welds or tapering.
2) Kenji said the new kits contain the metal wastegate gaskets, vs. the cheap paper stuff
3) I think they have improved the quality of some of the nuts, bolts, and studs...but not 100% sure.
This oil pan upgrade is new to me. Is it a higher capacity than stock? Looks like it has some heat fins as well.....curious about that.
1) The downpipes are non one piece solid....mine were were welded and slightly tapered. The newer ones are one nice piece...no welds or tapering.
2) Kenji said the new kits contain the metal wastegate gaskets, vs. the cheap paper stuff
3) I think they have improved the quality of some of the nuts, bolts, and studs...but not 100% sure.
This oil pan upgrade is new to me. Is it a higher capacity than stock? Looks like it has some heat fins as well.....curious about that.
Originally posted by derek_i
The oil pan interests me because if GReddy has improved the design I'd like to know. I am about to install the JWT spacer so now would be the time to switch it out.
-D
The oil pan interests me because if GReddy has improved the design I'd like to know. I am about to install the JWT spacer so now would be the time to switch it out.
-D
Nick, I hope we can hear more from you. I would really like to know what happened. I was afraid that you would react like that eventually, as I warned earlier. But this is a good site with good folks, so please continue to post on this topic and others.
Originally posted by nightmare
After reading all of this Iam seriously considering not going with f/i. very scary stuff, and Iam not rich or own my own shop to be wasting my money. I dont know, we will see.
After reading all of this Iam seriously considering not going with f/i. very scary stuff, and Iam not rich or own my own shop to be wasting my money. I dont know, we will see.
Although this is what happens when your tuning is seriously wrong.
I cant see how this could happen in the hands of a competent tuner. I guess we will never know as it looks like nick is all done posting here oh well.
Runing any F/I kit has certain latent risks however with proper tuning they are very reliable you should read the hundreds of other threads on F/I setups that are running clean and generating big power !!
Use the search function... knowing what i know about F/I this thread doesnt scare me one bit i think there is no reason this motor should be toast as if the proper steps were taken it would have never happened.
Yeah, another member just bought a Greddy kit and they told me the oil pan is new. Looks pretty nice compared to what the first batch had.
I wish people would stop accusing this guy about lying. I mean, haven't you guys already bitten your tongue about the whole "YOU'RE A LIAR" ordeal?
Lighten up. He already proved the blown engine. I wanna hear more about what happens to his motor and if he figures out what happened.
I wish people would stop accusing this guy about lying. I mean, haven't you guys already bitten your tongue about the whole "YOU'RE A LIAR" ordeal?
Lighten up. He already proved the blown engine. I wanna hear more about what happens to his motor and if he figures out what happened.


