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I realize it was the drag car...but was hoping the 1500 number came from a bigger turbo and bigger tercooler on their single setup with a built motor.
i'm going to be fine about 360 at the wheels ......so 400 wil be a bonus
i'm going to be fine about 360 at the wheels ......so 400 wil be a bonus
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Originally posted by ColecatZ
I realize it was the drag car...but was hoping the 1500 number came from a bigger turbo and bigger tercooler on their single setup with a built motor.
i'm going to be fine about 360 at the wheels ......so 400 wil be a bonus
I realize it was the drag car...but was hoping the 1500 number came from a bigger turbo and bigger tercooler on their single setup with a built motor.
i'm going to be fine about 360 at the wheels ......so 400 wil be a bonus
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yeah, it was unlikely.....but would speak wonders for the growth potential of the kit....
I cant even imagien what 1500 horsepower would feel like in a linear band....much less a sharp onset like turbo cars can produce..
see what you can find out on the engine managment when you go... I'm curious what the install will be like on this setup.
I cant even imagien what 1500 horsepower would feel like in a linear band....much less a sharp onset like turbo cars can produce..
see what you can find out on the engine managment when you go... I'm curious what the install will be like on this setup.
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Originally posted by ColecatZ
yeah, it was unlikely.....but would speak wonders for the growth potential of the kit....
I cant even imagien what 1500 horsepower would feel like in a linear band....much less a sharp onset like turbo cars can produce..
see what you can find out on the engine managment when you go... I'm curious what the install will be like on this setup.
yeah, it was unlikely.....but would speak wonders for the growth potential of the kit....
I cant even imagien what 1500 horsepower would feel like in a linear band....much less a sharp onset like turbo cars can produce..
see what you can find out on the engine managment when you go... I'm curious what the install will be like on this setup.
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Originally posted by ColecatZ
yeah, it was unlikely.....but would speak wonders for the growth potential of the kit....
I cant even imagien what 1500 horsepower would feel like in a linear band....much less a sharp onset like turbo cars can produce..
see what you can find out on the engine managment when you go... I'm curious what the install will be like on this setup.
yeah, it was unlikely.....but would speak wonders for the growth potential of the kit....
I cant even imagien what 1500 horsepower would feel like in a linear band....much less a sharp onset like turbo cars can produce..
see what you can find out on the engine managment when you go... I'm curious what the install will be like on this setup.
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Originally posted by Turbonetics
Oh we make turbo's bigger than that...how about 2,500HP from a single turbocharger
Oh we make turbo's bigger than that...how about 2,500HP from a single turbocharger
we just finished a project that has one of those Thumpers blowing into a Super T76 (Compound turbo's) on a Dodge/Cummins diesel engine making 1,500HP @ 2,500 ft/lbs with 150psi boost in a truck that is set up to run high 7's in the 1/4. Gotta love the forced induction business
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Originally posted by Turbonetics
and by the way...that big Thumper Turbo also is a ceramic ball bearing turbo.
we just finished a project that has one of those Thumpers blowing into a Super T76 (Compound turbo's) on a Dodge/Cummins diesel engine making 1,500HP @ 2,500 ft/lbs with 150psi boost in a truck that is set up to run high 7's in the 1/4. Gotta love the forced induction business
and by the way...that big Thumper Turbo also is a ceramic ball bearing turbo.
we just finished a project that has one of those Thumpers blowing into a Super T76 (Compound turbo's) on a Dodge/Cummins diesel engine making 1,500HP @ 2,500 ft/lbs with 150psi boost in a truck that is set up to run high 7's in the 1/4. Gotta love the forced induction business
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Thanks for staying involved in the thread, Mr Turbonetics.
It's worked well for Peter and the APS crew so I hope you find the same successes.
I'm stoked about this kit and will continue to follow it's development. Engine managemnt and dyno's are the last pieces of the puzzle now.
Thanks again
It's worked well for Peter and the APS crew so I hope you find the same successes.
I'm stoked about this kit and will continue to follow it's development. Engine managemnt and dyno's are the last pieces of the puzzle now.
Thanks again
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Originally posted by mojo powered
let's bump this up..
More info? More pics? Please Turbonetics please tell us..
let's bump this up..
More info? More pics? Please Turbonetics please tell us..
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Oh man, I thought you were going tomorrow so I was content. I didn't realize it was next week.
Maybe trbonetics can post those Dyno's they mentioned yesterday to hold us over untill we can get more pics?
Maybe trbonetics can post those Dyno's they mentioned yesterday to hold us over untill we can get more pics?
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Turbonetics or those who know: I have a couple Qs and I just want to be clear.
What is the price estimate?
Is it around 5 grand flat?
You are using the stock exhaust manifolds with the V collection that you have developed.
Is that correct? Just making sure.
What is the price estimate?
Is it around 5 grand flat?
You are using the stock exhaust manifolds with the V collection that you have developed.
Is that correct? Just making sure.
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Originally posted by learn2turn
Turbonetics or those who know: I have a couple Qs and I just want to be clear.
What is the price estimate?
Is it around 5 grand flat?
You are using the stock exhaust manifolds with the V collection that you have developed.
Is that correct? Just making sure.
Turbonetics or those who know: I have a couple Qs and I just want to be clear.
What is the price estimate?
Is it around 5 grand flat?
You are using the stock exhaust manifolds with the V collection that you have developed.
Is that correct? Just making sure.
1) Engine managment is the main one.
2) A reasonable Injector supplier
3) How do you feel about us supplying a carbon fiber intake
manifold cover (replacing the plactic one)? it is purely cosmetic
as the stock one fits fine.
We are currently using a modified version of Tadashi's program, one issue we are concerned with is how the consumer feels about having to send your CPU off for flashing...in general are people confortable with this? We have considered a core program but according to Tadashi CPU's are VIN# specific for anti-theft...not clear if this can be overcome.
Manifold: Yes, they are stock with a "Y" collector, this whole arrangement bolts solidly to the stock manifolds and is coupled with V-band connectors for ease of installtion and servicability.
Once initial installation is complete removing the turbo for service or upgrade can be done in about 20 minutes. 4 turbo mounting bolt, 4 turbine down pipe bolts, 2 oil drain bolts, 2 hose clamps (air inlet & intercooler pipe) and an oil line all of which is accessible from the top of the engine.
In designing products we sometimes think we know what the industry wants or needs...however you guys are the ones spending the money and we are here to listen and attempt to satify those needs when and if possible...that being said we as Turbonetics want your feedback.
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Originally posted by Turbonetics
We are shooting for the 5-6k MSRP with 8-10 hours required for installation. there are a couple of items left to settle before a complete design freeze can be declaired.
1) Engine managment is the main one.
2) A reasonable Injector supplier
3) How do you feel about us supplying a carbon fiber intake
manifold cover (replacing the plactic one)? it is purely cosmetic
as the stock one fits fine.
We are currently using a modified version of Tadashi's program, one issue we are concerned with is how the consumer feels about having to send your CPU off for flashing...in general are people confortable with this? We have considered a core program but according to Tadashi CPU's are VIN# specific for anti-theft...not clear if this can be overcome.
Manifold: Yes, they are stock with a "Y" collector, this whole arrangement bolts solidly to the stock manifolds and is coupled with V-band connectors for ease of installtion and servicability.
Once initial installation is complete removing the turbo for service or upgrade can be done in about 20 minutes. 4 turbo mounting bolt, 4 turbine down pipe bolts, 2 oil drain bolts, 2 hose clamps (air inlet & intercooler pipe) and an oil line all of which is accessible from the top of the engine.
In designing products we sometimes think we know what the industry wants or needs...however you guys are the ones spending the money and we are here to listen and attempt to satify those needs when and if possible...that being said we as Turbonetics want your feedback.
We are shooting for the 5-6k MSRP with 8-10 hours required for installation. there are a couple of items left to settle before a complete design freeze can be declaired.
1) Engine managment is the main one.
2) A reasonable Injector supplier
3) How do you feel about us supplying a carbon fiber intake
manifold cover (replacing the plactic one)? it is purely cosmetic
as the stock one fits fine.
We are currently using a modified version of Tadashi's program, one issue we are concerned with is how the consumer feels about having to send your CPU off for flashing...in general are people confortable with this? We have considered a core program but according to Tadashi CPU's are VIN# specific for anti-theft...not clear if this can be overcome.
Manifold: Yes, they are stock with a "Y" collector, this whole arrangement bolts solidly to the stock manifolds and is coupled with V-band connectors for ease of installtion and servicability.
Once initial installation is complete removing the turbo for service or upgrade can be done in about 20 minutes. 4 turbo mounting bolt, 4 turbine down pipe bolts, 2 oil drain bolts, 2 hose clamps (air inlet & intercooler pipe) and an oil line all of which is accessible from the top of the engine.
In designing products we sometimes think we know what the industry wants or needs...however you guys are the ones spending the money and we are here to listen and attempt to satify those needs when and if possible...that being said we as Turbonetics want your feedback.
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I like the idea of the carbon fiber cover but I would prefer it be optional to the kit to keep cost down. Several of us have already refinished our stock covers in a color of our choice and I would just as soon keep the cover I have. You also avoid issue with ppl that have aftermarket strut-tower braces.
I wouldn’t mind having to send my ECU off for a re-flash, and would go that route if left with no option but I would prefer something a little more flexible in the tuning arena, such as the successes the Greddy and Vortech guys have seen.
And in regards to the “Y Collector” that bolts to the stock manifolds, will those of us with aftermarket headers need to return to stock? In most turbo applications I would automatically say “yes, you would” but that is assuming that the turbo is bolting to the manifold.
If I could, in fact, utilize my headers, then that will directly affect my tuning needs….
Lastly….the downpipe coming off the turbo….how does it mate to the stock exhast and at what point?.
Thanks, I hope this helps
I wouldn’t mind having to send my ECU off for a re-flash, and would go that route if left with no option but I would prefer something a little more flexible in the tuning arena, such as the successes the Greddy and Vortech guys have seen.
And in regards to the “Y Collector” that bolts to the stock manifolds, will those of us with aftermarket headers need to return to stock? In most turbo applications I would automatically say “yes, you would” but that is assuming that the turbo is bolting to the manifold.
If I could, in fact, utilize my headers, then that will directly affect my tuning needs….
Lastly….the downpipe coming off the turbo….how does it mate to the stock exhast and at what point?.
Thanks, I hope this helps
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I also vote on the reflash since it is less of a hassle for the end user. We would appreciate the rev limiter raise and the larger injector scaling in the stock ecu as well. I guess those who want to take the kit one step further could buy their own piggyback to further tune the kit. For plug and play use, I definitely vote for the mail-in reflash anyday.
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Originally posted by mojo powered
I also vote on the reflash since it is less of a hassle for the end user. We would appreciate the rev limiter raise and the larger injector scaling in the stock ecu as well. I guess those who want to take the kit one step further could buy their own piggyback to further tune the kit. For plug and play use, I definitely vote for the mail-in reflash anyday.
I also vote on the reflash since it is less of a hassle for the end user. We would appreciate the rev limiter raise and the larger injector scaling in the stock ecu as well. I guess those who want to take the kit one step further could buy their own piggyback to further tune the kit. For plug and play use, I definitely vote for the mail-in reflash anyday.
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I think you should use the Splitsec box for engine management. It controls timing as well. us Vortech owners love the system. Very easy to tune by yourself on a laptop.
The problem with a reflash, is that the customer can't fine tune the maps by himself/herself on a dyno. What if he wants to tune for 94 octane? or even race fuel?
The problem with a reflash, is that the customer can't fine tune the maps by himself/herself on a dyno. What if he wants to tune for 94 octane? or even race fuel?
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