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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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So here's the story. Last Christmas I finally saved up enough money to buy TT or SC, I asked my mom what she thought it and if she would let me do it, she said shed think about it and I've been waiting for an answer ever since. Recently I've brought back the discussion and now she's leaning towards no, although she is still open for what I have to say about FI, she says I dont NEED it and doesn't understand why I would want to buy such a thing. Money isn't an issue so I don't see why not get FI... I have been wanting to put forced induction on my car since I got it almost two years ago and I think I've been pretty patient. I have narrowed the choices to HKS SC or APS TT, but I dont would not buy either until they're proven to be realible. What I need to know now is what premises I could use in persuading my mom to let me buy FI. I am open to any opinion. Sorry about the long post and if it doesn't make sense please feel free to ask me questions...it's just been bottled up for so long....
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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I suppose you're still in college? Here is what comes to mind to me. Are you paying for the car and the insurance? You already stated that you are paying for the SC or TT kit. I guess you will be paying for the install as well. IMO, if you are paying for everything, who's business is it what YOU are doing to YOUR car!!! Just my $.02.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Clearly you're using your mom's money. Tell her that your insurance will only go up if you tell them, traction will only be a problem if you press hard on the gas, and that chances are good that the ricers who try to race you at stoplights might have an attractive girlfriend you can steal.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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Not sure what the question is here. If you live it home, and your parents pay for stuff, then I would follow their orders. There isnt a way to "convince" a parent that F/I is needed...because its not.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Not sure what the question is here. If you live it home, and your parents pay for stuff, then I would follow their orders. There isnt a way to "convince" a parent that F/I is needed...because its not.
Thats exactly what I was saying, but ina different way.
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thanks for the responses!

this is where things get complicated...I do live at home, but I will move out next year when I go to college(still in high school). The money I'll be using for the kit, install, etc will be what I have saved up for the past couple of years. The car is completely paid off thanks to loving grandparents...college money is also not a problem. I would understand if my mom was worried about school grades but I know my own responsibilties, I've kept a 4.0 through school and IB so I dont think it'll be a problem.
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Originally posted by gq_626
Not sure what the question is here. If you live it home, and your parents pay for stuff, then I would follow their orders. There isnt a way to "convince" a parent that F/I is needed...because its not.
What he said.
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I applaud your choice of cars and I applaud your level of responsibility. I applaud your parents and grandparents for making wise financial decision so that you can have a nice education and a nice car. And, to be honest, I applaud your mom's concern about your having 400 rwhp at your disposal.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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to be honest I wasn't going to turn up the boost until I was older and possibly after racing school...I just want around 300rwhp without having to pay so much money for NA mods and not have more power potential.
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Originally posted by DLin05
to be honest I wasn't going to turn up the boost until I was older and possibly after racing school...I just want around 300rwhp without having to pay so much money for NA mods and not have more power potential.
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Dlin05, To be direct.. and perhaps out of the "Normal" 350Z Mod
information here..

I have worked with GQ_626 and Wld350Z on thier G/TT install's

Tony (Wld350Z) asked the question was the TT install - worth the price.. He said frankly NO.. 7K$ (he installed himself)

He should have kept the car stock..

This car is not dedicated to "Show" or to "Track" but is capable for each..

But for a daily driver... Adding a kit - in your position.. is just not a
good idea...

Thank your family for spoiling you...

Keep your car stock so you can take the car to the Dealer for warantee.. And If you want a thrill go ask for a ride if a FI car..

But don't get ahead of your self..

My Opinion is worth .02 - Input FYI

Cheers Amy -
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Honestly, the best route for a young driver is to keep the motor n/a...FI is a privilege and should probably only be used by advanced drivers...It requires a lot of temptation and mental patience to not use what you have under the hood on a daily basis...Best advice I have, as someone that is your age, is to do all the n/a bolt-ons and take a course...Because that is ultimately the best mod you can do to your car, a good driver...Give it some time and if you want FI do it when you graduate college, parts will be proven by then...Not only will they be proven, you'll see which outlasted the others...So all in all, if I were in your position I would most likely do the basic n/a mods to prep my motor for FI...Also, if you take a course you will dramatic results in daily driving and racing...You can also practice your new skills in an auto-x league...I know they have to have them around you, I live in Louisiana and they have them here!...So, good luck to you and your car.
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If I were you I would say **** it and get the Turbo kit. FI is not a privalage and if you can afford it get it if not get an evo or sti (only privlage people drive those there FI?). and since your gonna go to collage dont tell your parents since there not gonna be around.
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and you dont need to go to racing school to drive a car with 350whp (I dont think all 03+ cobra drivers are doning that)
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This is a funny thread.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by supra crazy
If I were you I would say **** it and get the Turbo kit. FI is not a privalage and if you can afford it get it if not get an evo or sti (only privlage people drive those there FI?). and since your gonna go to collage dont tell your parents since there not gonna be around.

and you dont need to go to racing school to drive a car with 350whp (I dont think all 03+ cobra drivers are doning that)
Your grammar is pathetic, this is coming from an 18 year old who just graduated High School...If I were in YOUR case, I would invest in some English lessons before blowing my money on a turbo kit...Anyway, about the Cobra part YEAH...If you read svtperformance.com forums often you'll hear about tons of deaths to young drivers...If you're going to say anything other than the best mod is the driver, you don't belong in a car...It is very easy for anyone to wreck a car, and performance mods don't exactly help...You are lucky if you can learn how to drive a 350Z to the fullest within a couple of years time, stock...Then, once you are confident enough that you are in control of your car completely, you can start modding it...For a young driver like myself, I would learn how to become a more perficient driver and take things progressively...Good luck to you DLin05
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My take on it is that with the risks of FI on this car, you better have enough in the bank to buy and install a replacement motor before you consider adding FI. While there are plenty of FI cars that drive around, the percentage of blown motors is still pretty high. Unless you get a FI kit that comes with a warrentee, I would skip it for now.

At your age have your parents send you to a good performance driving school. It would be a better use of those funds. You would be amazed at how much potential you could uncork from your car from a few weekends of instruction.

Having lots of HP is useless unless you know how to use it, and unless you have been racing carts since you were 14 or something like that, at HS age you just don't know how.

Don't take it personal, every high school boy thinks they can handle it. I did when I was that age, but EVERY ONE of my friends that had high performance cars crashed it within 6 months of getting it.

Combining lots of HP and lots of hormones ALWAYS has a bad outcome eventually.
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Originally posted by Alang
My take on it is that with the risks of FI on this car, you better have enough in the bank to buy and install a replacement motor before you consider adding FI. While there are plenty of FI cars that drive around, the percentage of blown motors is still pretty high. Unless you get a FI kit that comes with a warrentee, I would skip it for now.

At your age have your parents send you to a good performance driving school. It would be a better use of those funds. You would be amazed at how much potential you could uncork from your car from a few weekends of instruction.

Having lots of HP is useless unless you know how to use it, and unless you have been racing carts since you were 14 or something like that, at HS age you just don't know how.

Don't take it personal, every high school boy thinks they can handle it. I did when I was that age, but EVERY ONE of my friends that had high performance cars crashed it within 6 months of getting it.

Combining lots of HP and lots of hormones ALWAYS has a bad outcome eventually.
I totalled an 02 Maxima SE, also less than 6 months within owning...Thank you for solidifying my point that the driver is the important mod, "uncorking" your potential is what is important to do when you are my/DLin05's ages...Take it from someone who has wrecked his car before, don't make the same mistake I did...Take a course and save racing for the track.
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Your grammar is pathetic, this is coming from an 18 year old who just graduated High School...If I were in YOUR case, I would invest in some English lessons before blowing my money on a turbo kit...Anyway, about the Cobra part YEAH...If you read svtperformance.com forums often you'll hear about tons of deaths to young drivers...If you're going to say anything other than the best mod is the driver, you don't belong in a car...It is very easy for anyone to wreck a car, and performance mods don't exactly help...You are lucky if you can learn how to drive a 350Z to the fullest within a couple of years time, stock...Then, once you are confident enough that you are in control of your car completely, you can start modding it...For a young driver like myself, I would learn how to become a more perficient driver and take things progressively...Good luck to you DLin05
First off im 16 and still in high school (English3) I got a couple of years left so i guess ill take gramar and writing just for you buddy and about the svtforums most of those people were probably doin stupid ****. and if it takes you a couple of years to learn how to drive a car and find were its limits are you must be pretty pathetic.
and before you start sayin **** about how im 16 and dont know about driving cars i have been driving shifter carks for about 4 years now and am soon gonna start autocrossing my car (i missed the last event)..... Good luck to you DLin05 and dont do anything stupid.


and also you should attend a driving school you will learn alot but still if i were in your shoes i would get the tt if posable do both.

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You are right. This is funny, in a stupid and immature way.

Can we all act like adults, even if some of us are not?

The forum is for information exchange not personal bashing.

DLin05,

To your question, IMO you would be much better off holding on to your cash and learning how to make money work for you, rather than getting caught in the age old trap of spending every dime you have as soon as you get it.

If you do get the clear to go ahead with the FI mod, and you don't take my advice above, you really need to think ahead about how much this car is going to cost you in the long run. Are you going to have the cash to do the extra maintenance that higher performance cars have, and are you prepared for the possibility that you will have some major repairs (e.g., engine rebuild) in a couple of years?

Here’s a thought. You could go FI and be one out of a hundred guys on your college campus with a monster car, and when you are finished with school, at best, you be just like every other college grad (i.e., no money, failing car, and struggling to find your place in the world). Alternatively, you can hold on to your money, focus on school and learn how to use your money to become wealthy many years before most of your cohorts. Then, you can buy whatever toys you want and have the satisfaction that you did it on your own.
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wow...thanks everyone for their inputs! Keep them coming...I think I'm going to deliberate some more as I am in no hurry. I do know for sure now that I will be going to driving school.
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