I'm ready to jump into F/I with my Z. However, it is a 2004 5AT. From reading and trying to educate my self on the performance aspect of our Zs. . . i've noticed alot of you are extremely knowledgeable.

Before I pull out the money, I wanted to post and see what everyone suggests on a TT Kit for my 5AT. My goal "eventually" is to be at 650rhp. Of course, this is after all internal upgrades, etc. . I'm ready to start with the Turbo kit though right now.

Can anyone help me out on comments ?

Here's the latest pics of my car now. . .
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=89965

 

I too have an auto (g35 coupe), and I'm going TT next spring,
either Greddy or PE . But first I'll be putting in forged pistons and rods.

If you want 650 whp then I think go with Greddy and I would recomend new pistons & rods for that much power .


Good luck !



Tasso -

 

So far, i'm leaning towards Greddy just becuase I'll be having Charles (Phunk) do my install and I believe he is most familiar with Greddy. I haven't gotten a chance to speak to him about PE's TT kit though and his thoughts.

I'm starting off with the TT kit, and enjoy that for a few months, then once I get more miles on my car AND MORE MONEY i'll be upgrading to better rods and pistons, injectors, etc. . . to achieve my goal.

 

How bout the Turbonetics kit. Its a single turbo rather then a TT but the turbo in the kit is good for over 650. Plus the kit comes with a TS reflash which you'll want to get the auto to shift right after boosting...

More info on it here... https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=92047

 

I've looked into Turbonetics. . . . but with it being so new - I wasn't for sure if that was the route I would like to go. My problem is that i'm in St.Louis, MO and can't find anyone around here that I can trust with doing a good quality install.

Charles (Phunk) will be doing my install, I might ask him what he thinks of Turbonetics's new Kit. I saw the pics of the BOV on it. . is there room to slap on the HKS SSQ? Just a random question, haha.

And MIAPLAYA. . . what do you think that kit is capable of handling without upgrading the turbo, etc? I love the look of it.

 

The install is actually very simple. if Charles could figure out the Greddy kit so well, turst me when I tell you that he would be able to learn the ins and outs of this kit in no time. As for what its goof for.. the turbo as it sits in the kit is good to over 650HP When you order the kit however you can tell turbonetics your plan of making 650 solid and they will most likely get you a compressor wheel that does decent out of the box and even better when you get to 650. As for the BOV I haven't measured it or anything but I imagine you could fit one on there..The Raptor BOV is pretty nice though. Check out the video....

 

I couldn't hardly hear the BOV in that video. Do you have any others? I am very attached to the HKS SSQ BOV from hearing both of them in Charles's video racing the supras.

MIAPLAYA. . do you have AIM? My name is "Webiteks" if you could, send me an Instant Message

 

Start with the motor then worry about the TT kit...

Also plan on having your ECU flashed so you canl shift during WOT.

 

Start with the motor? Are you meaning to upgrade all my internals? I'm not wanting to do a full build just yet. My plans are to find a kit that is capable of my end goals, then in the next few months I will pull the engine to upgrade all my internals.

Of course, when I have my turbo kit installed, I will be reflashing my ECU so I can shift.

Phunk...you read these things yet? I need to contact you about installing, and what your comments are between the Greddy and the upcoming Turbonetics. I'm at a standstill, haha!

 

WELL I agree with dady on that one people been blowin the motors lately u could go with greddy tt 1st but what happens when u blow Ur motor Ur FUCCKED. Internals 1st or u just go the greddy kit and hope U don't blow Ur motor on stock boost

 

PM'd you back.

 

I can only say that putting the TT on and tuning it once is a pain. Why do it twice? Start with the motor and then install the TT. The TT kit is the cheapest stage of your 650HP goal.

I know of only 2 guys that have some milage on their TT's that haven't bent/broken a rod. In fact both of the guys I am referenceing are expecting their motors to go soon...

 

Ok, so what engine internals are the minimum before going FI? Are rods and pistons enough for 400-500whp?

 

Talk to Charles (Phunk). . . He hasn't upgraded his internals and his is running just fine. He's one of the best installers for TTs and if you can find someone that knows what they are doing (charles) you won't be blowing any engines.

 

I don't agree with you're statement. Here is an example of a failure with good tuning,fuel,timing,etc. Some people have gotten lucky with a good motor with their car.....others are not so great.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/92140-bad-day-pe-tt-blew-the-engine-at-5-7-psi.html

 

Isn't Charles building up his motor, just waiting on parts?

If you plan on going to 650rwhp, you know you're going to have to build the motor. You have the advantage of learning from the ones' who took it on the chin finding out about the weak rods; even at low boost pressure they are failing with little rhyme or reason as to who's will and who's won't. I wish I had built mine up prior to the GReddy install. You're in a no lose situation if you do it now, especailly if CJ is doing the install.

 

For a reliable 650rwhp, you will need: Turbo kit with 15-18psi boost/ external oil cooler/high capacity oil pan/forged pistons and rods/heavy duty crankshaft/full clutch upgrade/F/R big brake upgrade/wheel & tire upgrade with at least 295 width rears which will require rear fender work/upgraded rear diff and housing/....am I forgetting something? Plan on a good $40,000 for all parts/labor/tuning and a LOT of dyno time. Are you ready for it? Also, I'm uncertain as to whether the stock At can handle that kind of power.

 

Just another comment....

There are quite a few TT owners without built motors who have not blown them. SKiDaZZLe, Ellas 1, and I have all put down 450 to the wheels on stock internals. The key is tuning. Ignition and AF must be addressed.

Even at that point, it has been proven, our rods suck! Ellas 1 is having his motor built as we speak, I will be doing mine soon, and SKiDaZZLe's car has been sold. I think most people witth FI are at least considering building the bottom end. But, you can run a turbo at stock boost and have a good chance of no issues for the short term.

 

I don't think anyone is understanding that i'm not wanting 650rhwp tommorow. That is something i'm going to do a loooong time down the road. All I'm wanting to do right now is just to put the kit on my car and run extremely low boost. That's all.

This thread was created with the intention to grab everyones feedback as to what turbo kit is suggested to run on a 5AT car such as mine. I'm not going to argue about what I need to do and not need to do with my car to get 650rwhp. I already know those answers.

 

Thank you t32. Point proven. I think everyone didn't read this thread well enough. I'm not wantinng to pull out 650rwhp out of just a TT alone. I realize that if you drive the **** out of a TT with stock internals, problems "Can" arise. I'm just wanting to get everyones suggestions as to what TT or single Turbo (turbonetics) turbocharger would be best for a 5AT.