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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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Vortech Belt Slip/noise Solution-Fix

I have corrected the problems with the Vortech Drive Belt and Pulleys.

It works Great. No Belt or pulley noise. The Belt no longer has to be so tight that is stretches.

1. Machine the Stock Fixed Idler Pulley (for flat side of Belt) Machine just enough to remove RIBS and side to side so the Belt sits Flat in Pulley

2. Purchase a 12mm x 110mm Hex Head Bolt and machine (or grind) the Head Hight down to about .200 in.

3. WRONG>>>>> Purchase a 92-1/8 long V-Belt Gates # 060915 (for 2.87 Dia Pulley or a Delta 060923 (for 3.31 dia Pulley)

CORRECT>>>> My Belt is 91-1/4” Long with a 2.87 Pulley. Napa/Gates Micro-V 060908

4. Remove the Vortech middle Idler Pulley.

5. Route the Belt around the Crank, under and around the the Fix Idler to the Blower, over the top Idler, under the lower Idler to the power steering pump, around the Alt and over the Adj Idler.

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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Definately want to see "Pictures"! I immediately replaced my "Gator" belt with a "NAPA" belt. Works GREAT, but would still like to get rid of some "noise".
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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I dont know if you could get a good pic of the routing of the belt...could you draw a diagram to show us the routing also....thx
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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I dont know the pulley names . But the one with 4 set screws on it , is the one you milled off the grooves ? And just removed the middle pulley and used the purchased 12mm bolt to replace the one used on the removed pulley ? Im just wondering if your going to have enough........gripping area... the belt will be touching less area of the jackshaft pulley . The belt is coming from a wider angle than before . Im just looking at mine and your pic at the same time and think about possible problems with it . Im not trying to take away from your idea...its a good one....Lets us know how it comes out in the next couple weeks....slipping or not.....It will be a easy replace if it does slip......Bill
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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thanks Tim . I can see exactly what you was talking about now . I may see if I can buy a stock fixed idler pulley and have it milled off . So I can put it back to stock if need be.
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does someone know where to buy these belts from?
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TIMROD1011
Vortech Belt Slip/noise Solution-Fix

I have corrected the problems with the Vortech Drive Belt and Pulleys.

It works Great. No Belt or pulley noise. The Belt no longer has to be so tight that is stretches.

1. Machine the Stock Fixed Idler Pulley (for flat side of Belt)

2. Purchase a 12mm x 110mm Hex Head Bolt and machine (or grind) the Head Hight down to about .200 in.

3. Purchase a 92-1/8 long V-Belt Gates # 060915 (for 2.87 Dia Pulley or a Delta 060923 (for 3.31 dia Pulley)

4. Remove the Vortech middle Idler Pulley.

5. Route the Belt around the Crank, under and around the the Fix Idler to the Blower, over the top Idler, under the lower Idler to the power steering pump, around the Alt and over the Adj Idler.

Pictures will be posted tonight.

Timrod
Very interesting.....

Ok....I think I got most of it.....

But please explain step 2 - head height .200 ???????

Thanks!
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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back from the dead


everyone who's done TIMROD's new belt solution, I need to know where you bought that idler pulley from and what the part number is.

I'm having a hard time finding something that'll work.



here's a before and after picture of his modification, with the only difference being that I have added an additional idler pulley near the jackshaft pulley. Hell, you might even be able to take the one that you remove and put it there
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Your idea really helps what Timrod did . The farther you can get it to the left and up , the more it will help . Hope you can make it to adjust or tighten up more than shown . good idea !
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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No belt slippage yet with the new Gates, but I'd like to know where to get the idler pulleys too, just in case.
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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You machine the stock idler pulley it turns out - I just didn't read over TIMROD's post closely enough
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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what i ask them to machine the stock pulley, what do i say exactly lol? is there a certain way or length they do it? for example u said hex oblt machined down to .200 in.
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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I think you just have the ribs machined off until it's a smooth surface
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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cog belt snapped right in half today tuning on the dyno...
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