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Old 06-13-2005, 08:22 AM
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Default Dropped my G~Hotchkis/Kinetix/SPC

For those of you that dont frequent G35driver!


Without question this project proved to be my most challenging to date.

A SPECIAL THANK YOU to the following gentlemen from G35driver for going above and beyond! They helped without being prompted and unselfishly took the time to share expertise without hesitation. AWESOME G35DRIVER MEMBERS:

GSedan35-Thank you for your many educational/informative/expert posts as well as your personal attention to my goals and limitations. YOUR THE BEST!

Kenchan-Thank you also for your many informative posts on the topic and your personal attention to my challenges! YOUR AWESOME!

Neffster-I always found your posts very detailed and helpfull. It's obvious you do your homework! Your SPC recommendation saved me alot of time and Money!

G352NV-Thanks for a fair price and super fast shipment on the front arms! I'll take your left over parts any day--Could your car get any cooler?




My Goal----> Drop the car cosmetically approx an inch without deteriorating ride quality(slight lean to comfort). Also, maintain stock handling characteristics while maximizing tire wear. As my daily driver this car sees 30K annually.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED


DROP:These measurements are from the floor to the center of the fender, full tank of gas and same location. The before ride hieght was 27 1/4 FRONT and REAR with my aftermarket wheels. The current ride hieght is FRONT=25 3/4's both sides REAR= 26 1/2 both sides.


SPRINGS: Hotchkis 350Z springs(THUMBS UP!). http://store.yahoo.com/ntnsracing/hospcosp35.html
They are made from cold wound silicon steel, they are linear rate, and powder coated seabring silver. Front Sring rate is 340lbs/in and the Rear is 330lbs/in vs. stock 314 and 342 respectively.

They work well with the OEM shocks. Ride is slightly stiffer and noticeable on take off (less bounce) and over potholes etc at high speeds. Overall the ride is VERY similar to stock which is exactly what I was looking for. It's remains a great handling touring coupe with a comfortable ride.

FRONT: The "new version" Kinetix Upper A arms to get my front back into spec. http://kinetixracing.com/index.asp
NO noise at all-good workmanship! Great part for the price IMO. The only draw back is the adjustment. It's very time consuming for the alignment tech but precise!

REAR: SPC camber/toe kit to resolve the challenges in the rear (THUMBS UP) EXCELLENT VALUE! http://iapdirect.com/item.asp?invid=622
Great price and worked awesome! The only drawback-the drilling of the toe holes proved tougher than expected-the right tool is half the job .

HERE ARE MY ALIGNMENT NUMBERS:

FRONT
Camber R -0.5 L -0.6
Toe R 0.03 L 0.03
Total Toe 0.06
Cross Camber 0.1

REAR
Camber R -1.6 L -1.6
Toe R 0.21 L 0.21
Total Toe 0.42
Cross Camber 0.1


*I need to return in a couple weeks to tweak it a bit and I will have them look at the rear camber and "toe in" which is not quite what I want.

**D Specs and sways are on the wish list


Here are some pics-The first one is "Before" all others are "After". Please let me know what you think.
Attached Thumbnails Dropped my G~Hotchkis/Kinetix/SPC-lakeside-g-before-lower.jpg   Dropped my G~Hotchkis/Kinetix/SPC-lakeside-g-lowered.jpg   Dropped my G~Hotchkis/Kinetix/SPC-picture-003.jpg   Dropped my G~Hotchkis/Kinetix/SPC-picture-004.jpg   Dropped my G~Hotchkis/Kinetix/SPC-picture-008.jpg  


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Old 06-13-2005, 05:24 PM
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Nice car !

perfect drop.
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nice!

i'm thinking that the 1st and 2nd pic is reversd though
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Originally Posted by illZ
nice!

i'm thinking that the 1st and 2nd pic is reversd though

Your right! Good catch!

~Thanks for the compliments Guys~
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Default UPDATE~Final Alignment

Final Alignment Numbers(a lean toward treadwear)ALL IN DEGREES:

FRONT
Camber R -0.2 L -0.2
Toe R 0.00 L 0.05
Caster R 8.2 L 8.6


Cross Camber 0.1
Cross Caster -0.3
Total Toe 0.06


REAR
Camber R -1.4 L -1.2
Toe R 0.14 L 0.10
Total Toe 0.23



Pictured is the machine he used for the "tweak" alignment!
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:35 PM
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woa can't get any better than that.
Old 06-17-2005, 10:16 AM
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Yeah, I was one of the first people to have the Hotchkis springs on a G - and I've been raving about them ever since... definitely the best combination of performance/comfort out there imo...
Old 06-19-2005, 07:14 AM
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Could you post a bigger side shot por favor?
Old 06-23-2005, 08:14 AM
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any chance you tried to get an alignment with just installing the springs? Just wondernig if the all the camber kits are needed for sure with those springs.

thanks.
Old 07-13-2005, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepman
any chance you tried to get an alignment with just installing the springs?
double that. ...

I have a feeling that the drop with these springs is not that big.

Such a big investment on camber kit/arms ... why didn't you consider coilovers? Lower ride means that shocks lifetime will be much shorter ..

What is your opinion on that?
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did you tint out the rear lights? If so how?

Sweet car.
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Originally Posted by lobuck
did you tint out the rear lights? If so how?

Sweet car.

Do a search for Bats Overlays here or on G35driver.com

Use a hair dryer to smooth the curves

Happy Modding
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Heres a link to his site

http://photobucket.com/albums/y42/BlueBatmobile2005/
Old 08-03-2005, 07:31 AM
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should that camber setting f/r lead towards understeer hard into a corner?

i've always run more camber on the front of an FR car. the multilink design settles very well nevertheless. i'm running 1.5 deg front, 1.1 deg rear. tire wear is not THAT bad
Old 08-04-2005, 07:17 PM
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Looks great! It's more of a visual drop than I would've expected w/those Hotchkis springs. What would you say the finger gap is in the front/rear now?
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