Battle of the Boosted. G35 TT Vs IS300 T
Now, not only do I have to figure out a way to pay for the build project for my G (including a Top Secret wide body kit), but now I have to find a way to get a Supra too!
10-11-2007, 08:02 PM
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I think your G would win. What sized Turbos are you running?
You will have a 1.5L advantage over both of the IS's. More power per psi of boost, or so I read?
You will have a 1.5L advantage over both of the IS's. More power per psi of boost, or so I read?
10-16-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MIVsupra93-2JZ
All of this turbo talk is a little too complicated for me, with that said, I think the G/Z looks a lot better then the out dated 4th gen Supras even though I love that car to death. Anyone wanna prove me wrong?
here are a few exhibits:
IMHO nothing beats the look of a stock bodied MKIV. yes, there are some nice front and rear bumpers/sideskirts/spoilers out there, but i think the best looking Supras look like OEM 97's and 98's - i.e. they have stock bodies with painted trim (instead of black plastic trim) at the bottom edges of the front/rear fenders and sideskirts.
is the G35 a hot car? without a doubt. how about the 350Z? i think its even better looking than the G, despite it being less refined and luxurious. but if i had a choice between the G35, 350Z, and an MKIV Supra, i couldn't pass up the timeless exotic beauty of the Supra. i know, i know, its just an opinion and i can't prove it as i could a fact. but the car just flows perfectly - no sharp, goofy edges, no funny window lines, etc. in fact i've yet to find another production car that comes closer to looking like an exotic/supercar since its debut (save the C6 Vette).
anyways, back on topic - i'm now subscribed. can't wait to see the showdown between the built single turbo IS300 and the swapped G35.
EDIT - btw, i'm new here...hi everyone
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10-16-2007, 10:18 AM
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Well I believe the OEM look makes an old car look less dated. Doesn't matter how good the body kit looks, body kits are a date stamp on a car.
For example... My 95 eclipse GSX. Great car but I can't put a single body kit on it. Since the car is old, all the body kits make it look like a scene from fast and furious. All I can do it put some nice wheels (TE37, work or ccw), tires, suspension, seibon OEM CF hood, maybe the hatch too and call it a day.
OEM look FTMFW!!!
For example... My 95 eclipse GSX. Great car but I can't put a single body kit on it. Since the car is old, all the body kits make it look like a scene from fast and furious. All I can do it put some nice wheels (TE37, work or ccw), tires, suspension, seibon OEM CF hood, maybe the hatch too and call it a day.
OEM look FTMFW!!!
Originally Posted by 94JZA80
if it were possible to prove an opinion wrong, i would...but the best i can do try to provide convincing edivence against your case
here are a few exhibits:
IMHO nothing beats the look of a stock bodied MKIV. yes, there are some nice front and rear bumpers/sideskirts/spoilers out there, but i think the best looking Supras look like OEM 97's and 98's - i.e. they have stock bodies with painted trim (instead of black plastic trim) at the bottom edges of the front/rear fenders and sideskirts.
is the G35 a hot car? without a doubt. how about the 350Z? i think its even better looking than the G, despite it being less refined and luxurious. but if i had a choice between the G35, 350Z, and an MKIV Supra, i couldn't pass up the timeless exotic beauty of the Supra. i know, i know, its just an opinion and i can't prove it as i could a fact. but the car just flows perfectly - no sharp, goofy edges, no funny window lines, etc. in fact i've yet to find another production car that comes closer to looking like an exotic/supercar since its debut (save the C6 Vette).
anyways, back on topic - i'm now subscribed. can't wait to see the showdown between the built single turbo IS300 and the swapped G35.
EDIT - btw, i'm new here...hi everyone
here are a few exhibits:
IMHO nothing beats the look of a stock bodied MKIV. yes, there are some nice front and rear bumpers/sideskirts/spoilers out there, but i think the best looking Supras look like OEM 97's and 98's - i.e. they have stock bodies with painted trim (instead of black plastic trim) at the bottom edges of the front/rear fenders and sideskirts.
is the G35 a hot car? without a doubt. how about the 350Z? i think its even better looking than the G, despite it being less refined and luxurious. but if i had a choice between the G35, 350Z, and an MKIV Supra, i couldn't pass up the timeless exotic beauty of the Supra. i know, i know, its just an opinion and i can't prove it as i could a fact. but the car just flows perfectly - no sharp, goofy edges, no funny window lines, etc. in fact i've yet to find another production car that comes closer to looking like an exotic/supercar since its debut (save the C6 Vette).
anyways, back on topic - i'm now subscribed. can't wait to see the showdown between the built single turbo IS300 and the swapped G35.
EDIT - btw, i'm new here...hi everyone
10-16-2007, 11:04 AM
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Almost agree w/ you - the stock bodied MKIV looks great except for the rear end (imo of course). the Z/G have a more "complete" package... Maybe get some LED tail lights for the supra with a different wing and lose the huge "fart can" exhaust muffler and you'd be on to something... The TS kit goes a long way to helping - the tail lights still look dull though.
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lol....racing a supra hahahahahaha.... as for the IS300 not sure how much traction the car gets. But Soundperformance from IL can build you a 9.5 sec street legal supra. Call them up.
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Originally Posted by rcdash
Almost agree w/ you - the stock bodied MKIV looks great except for the rear end (imo of course). the Z/G have a more "complete" package... Maybe get some LED tail lights for the supra with a different wing and lose the huge "fart can" exhaust muffler and you'd be on to something... The TS kit goes a long way to helping - the tail lights still look dull though.
...i love the simple rounded-off look of the Supra rear end. sure, it would be nice if the tail lights were actually LED, but at least the light pods flow perfectly with the curves at the rear end. i unfortunately cannot say the same for the G - its too edgy and squared off toward the bottom of the rear bumper for my taste...it just doesn't look very aerodynamic compared to the Supra (i'm not saying it isn't - it just doesn't look it). as for the spoiler and the "fart can" exhaust, i'm not sure if you are referring to the Anthracite Supra or the black one. i prefer the canister style exhaust on the Anthracite Supra, and rather dislike the giant muffler/exhaust tip on the black Supra. both exhaust systems are excellent, so i guess it comes down to the style/look you like. as for the spoiler, its a toss up for me between the OEM (anthracite car) and the TRD/Rod Millen (black car) rear spoiler. i have the OEM spoiler on my car for now...i'm not sure when/if i'll change it to the TRD spoiler.and i'm very surprised how many people actually think the Top Secret kit makes the Supra look good...i haven't seen such an ugly front end on a Supra since the ricer aerokits that debuted ages ago from companies like Erebuni, C-West, etc. one thing's for sure, people either love this kit or hate it, there's no in between. but hey, that's the beauty of everyone being entitled to his/her opinion
. back on topic - some of the predictions i'm seeing in here have no justification. even those who have owned one or the other (or both the IS and the G35) are making blanket statements when claiming that one will outright beat the other. how can this prediction be accurate when we don't really have the details of the setups in each car? i could justify all the initial skepticism of a 2JZ-GTE vs VQ35DE comparison, but has it dawned on anyone here that a turbo'd 4.5L V8 will spool a bit faster and produce WAY more low end torque than both the VQ and the 2JZ? not that there won't be plenty of challenges along the way and hurdles to overcome, but for so many people to write off the G35 simply b/c its going up against a 2JZ-GTE is simply ignorant without knowing the details of each car's setup. what if the 2JZ is running a GT42 or something ridiculous? then the G will surely pull initially and then get walked. what if the 2JZ only has a 57mm turbo? it would be neck-n-neck and then the G would eventually pull away hard. not everything with a 2JZ-GTE under the hood is going to be built to the hilt or making 800+rwhp. just a thought...
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10-17-2007, 06:59 AM
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Exactly. Most people will jump the gun and argue for the 2jZ just because it's a 2j. Lets give the old VH45 a chance here!
Originally Posted by 94JZA80
we have very different opinions ...i love the simple rounded-off look of the Supra rear end. sure, it would be nice if the tail lights were actually LED, but at least the light pods flow perfectly with the curves at the rear end. i unfortunately cannot say the same for the G - its too edgy and squared off toward the bottom of the rear bumper for my taste...it just doesn't look very aerodynamic compared to the Supra (i'm not saying it isn't - it just doesn't look it). as for the spoiler and the "fart can" exhaust, i'm not sure if you are referring to the Anthracite Supra or the black one. i prefer the canister style exhaust on the Anthracite Supra, and rather dislike the giant muffler/exhaust tip on the black Supra. both exhaust systems are excellent, so i guess it comes down to the style/look you like. as for the spoiler, its a toss up for me between the OEM (anthracite car) and the TRD/Rod Millen (black car) rear spoiler. i have the OEM spoiler on my car for now...i'm not sure when/if i'll change it to the TRD spoiler.
and i'm very surprised how many people actually think the Top Secret kit makes the Supra look good...i haven't seen such an ugly front end on a Supra since the ricer aerokits that debuted ages ago from companies like Erebuni, C-West, etc. one thing's for sure, people either love this kit or hate it, there's no in between. but hey, that's the beauty of everyone being entitled to his/her opinion .
back on topic - some of the predictions i'm seeing in here have no justification. even those who have owned one or the other (or both the IS and the G35) are making blanket statements when claiming that one will outright beat the other. how can this prediction be accurate when we don't really have the details of the setups in each car? i could justify all the initial skepticism of a 2JZ-GTE vs VQ35DE comparison, but has it dawned on anyone here that a turbo'd 4.5L V8 will spool a bit faster and produce WAY more low end torque than both the VQ and the 2JZ? not that there won't be plenty of challenges along the way and hurdles to overcome, but for so many people to write off the G35 simply b/c its going up against a 2JZ-GTE is simply ignorant without knowing the details of each car's setup. what if the 2JZ is running a GT42 or something ridiculous? then the G will surely pull initially and then get walked. what if the 2JZ only has a 57mm turbo? it would be neck-n-neck and then the G would eventually pull away hard. not everything with a 2JZ-GTE under the hood is going to be built to the hilt or making 800+rwhp. just a thought...
...i love the simple rounded-off look of the Supra rear end. sure, it would be nice if the tail lights were actually LED, but at least the light pods flow perfectly with the curves at the rear end. i unfortunately cannot say the same for the G - its too edgy and squared off toward the bottom of the rear bumper for my taste...it just doesn't look very aerodynamic compared to the Supra (i'm not saying it isn't - it just doesn't look it). as for the spoiler and the "fart can" exhaust, i'm not sure if you are referring to the Anthracite Supra or the black one. i prefer the canister style exhaust on the Anthracite Supra, and rather dislike the giant muffler/exhaust tip on the black Supra. both exhaust systems are excellent, so i guess it comes down to the style/look you like. as for the spoiler, its a toss up for me between the OEM (anthracite car) and the TRD/Rod Millen (black car) rear spoiler. i have the OEM spoiler on my car for now...i'm not sure when/if i'll change it to the TRD spoiler.and i'm very surprised how many people actually think the Top Secret kit makes the Supra look good...i haven't seen such an ugly front end on a Supra since the ricer aerokits that debuted ages ago from companies like Erebuni, C-West, etc. one thing's for sure, people either love this kit or hate it, there's no in between. but hey, that's the beauty of everyone being entitled to his/her opinion
. back on topic - some of the predictions i'm seeing in here have no justification. even those who have owned one or the other (or both the IS and the G35) are making blanket statements when claiming that one will outright beat the other. how can this prediction be accurate when we don't really have the details of the setups in each car? i could justify all the initial skepticism of a 2JZ-GTE vs VQ35DE comparison, but has it dawned on anyone here that a turbo'd 4.5L V8 will spool a bit faster and produce WAY more low end torque than both the VQ and the 2JZ? not that there won't be plenty of challenges along the way and hurdles to overcome, but for so many people to write off the G35 simply b/c its going up against a 2JZ-GTE is simply ignorant without knowing the details of each car's setup. what if the 2JZ is running a GT42 or something ridiculous? then the G will surely pull initially and then get walked. what if the 2JZ only has a 57mm turbo? it would be neck-n-neck and then the G would eventually pull away hard. not everything with a 2JZ-GTE under the hood is going to be built to the hilt or making 800+rwhp. just a thought...
10-17-2007, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 94JZA80
we have very different opinions ...i love the simple rounded-off look of the Supra rear end. sure, it would be nice if the tail lights were actually LED, but at least the light pods flow perfectly with the curves at the rear end. i unfortunately cannot say the same for the G - its too edgy and squared off toward the bottom of the rear bumper for my taste...it just doesn't look very aerodynamic compared to the Supra (i'm not saying it isn't - it just doesn't look it). as for the spoiler and the "fart can" exhaust, i'm not sure if you are referring to the Anthracite Supra or the black one. i prefer the canister style exhaust on the Anthracite Supra, and rather dislike the giant muffler/exhaust tip on the black Supra. both exhaust systems are excellent, so i guess it comes down to the style/look you like. as for the spoiler, its a toss up for me between the OEM (anthracite car) and the TRD/Rod Millen (black car) rear spoiler. i have the OEM spoiler on my car for now...i'm not sure when/if i'll change it to the TRD spoiler.
and i'm very surprised how many people actually think the Top Secret kit makes the Supra look good...i haven't seen such an ugly front end on a Supra since the ricer aerokits that debuted ages ago from companies like Erebuni, C-West, etc. one thing's for sure, people either love this kit or hate it, there's no in between. but hey, that's the beauty of everyone being entitled to his/her opinion .
...i love the simple rounded-off look of the Supra rear end. sure, it would be nice if the tail lights were actually LED, but at least the light pods flow perfectly with the curves at the rear end. i unfortunately cannot say the same for the G - its too edgy and squared off toward the bottom of the rear bumper for my taste...it just doesn't look very aerodynamic compared to the Supra (i'm not saying it isn't - it just doesn't look it). as for the spoiler and the "fart can" exhaust, i'm not sure if you are referring to the Anthracite Supra or the black one. i prefer the canister style exhaust on the Anthracite Supra, and rather dislike the giant muffler/exhaust tip on the black Supra. both exhaust systems are excellent, so i guess it comes down to the style/look you like. as for the spoiler, its a toss up for me between the OEM (anthracite car) and the TRD/Rod Millen (black car) rear spoiler. i have the OEM spoiler on my car for now...i'm not sure when/if i'll change it to the TRD spoiler.and i'm very surprised how many people actually think the Top Secret kit makes the Supra look good...i haven't seen such an ugly front end on a Supra since the ricer aerokits that debuted ages ago from companies like Erebuni, C-West, etc. one thing's for sure, people either love this kit or hate it, there's no in between. but hey, that's the beauty of everyone being entitled to his/her opinion
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You're right that we have very different opinions! I couldn't disagree more! While I like the lines of the stock Supra, I love the lines of the G35 coupe, including the rear. IMO, the G35 coupe is the perfect blend of sexy curves and defined lines/edges. I think that's why I also love the Top Secret Final Evolution version bodykit for the Supra. It gives the Supra some edges to go with those nice curves.
Originally Posted by 94JZA80
back on topic - some of the predictions i'm seeing in here have no justification. even those who have owned one or the other (or both the IS and the G35) are making blanket statements when claiming that one will outright beat the other. how can this prediction be accurate when we don't really have the details of the setups in each car? i could justify all the initial skepticism of a 2JZ-GTE vs VQ35DE comparison, but has it dawned on anyone here that a turbo'd 4.5L V8 will spool a bit faster and produce WAY more low end torque than both the VQ and the 2JZ? not that there won't be plenty of challenges along the way and hurdles to overcome, but for so many people to write off the G35 simply b/c its going up against a 2JZ-GTE is simply ignorant without knowing the details of each car's setup. what if the 2JZ is running a GT42 or something ridiculous? then the G will surely pull initially and then get walked. what if the 2JZ only has a 57mm turbo? it would be neck-n-neck and then the G would eventually pull away hard. not everything with a 2JZ-GTE under the hood is going to be built to the hilt or making 800+rwhp. just a thought...
Some folks aren't considering the superior low and midrange power that tecni's VH45 V8 with twin 56mm turbos will have over a 3.0L or even stroked version of a 2JZ-GTE.
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Originally Posted by tecni
Exactly. Most people will jump the gun and argue for the 2jZ just because it's a 2j. Lets give the old VH45 a chance here!
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Originally Posted by bhendjol
How much money and time you've spent?
add in the HKS intake, the GReddy 3-row, and the B&M ssk, and i suppose i've spent around $3500 for "go fast" mods. on a side note, the $200 i spent on the intake was a waste of money. i could have made a more efficient one for less $, but i was lazy at the time.
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If you wanna see some sexy a$$, look no further then this thread, if you haven't already....
https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2009-nissan-350z/297605-who-has-the-sexier-looking-a-the-z-or-g.html
Supras gets some mention as well. I like both edgy and curvy depending on the car. It would look retarted if the Supras/Z had edgy rear and the G had rounded rear b/c it doesn't flow with the lines of the side panels that runs to the rear. Corvettes/NSX have nice edgy rear and Vipers/2nd gen eclipse have nice curvy ones...it just all depends.
I agree that front TS kit is nasty on the supras with that slanted eyes. I like the classic Blitz kit though. Oh yea, the supras looks even more sexy and sleek without that big *** wing IMO. Being the curvy fan that you are, don't you think that wing is a bit edgy? I tihnk its draws too much unwanted attention in the back end.
https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2009-nissan-350z/297605-who-has-the-sexier-looking-a-the-z-or-g.html
Supras gets some mention as well. I like both edgy and curvy depending on the car. It would look retarted if the Supras/Z had edgy rear and the G had rounded rear b/c it doesn't flow with the lines of the side panels that runs to the rear. Corvettes/NSX have nice edgy rear and Vipers/2nd gen eclipse have nice curvy ones...it just all depends.
I agree that front TS kit is nasty on the supras with that slanted eyes. I like the classic Blitz kit though. Oh yea, the supras looks even more sexy and sleek without that big *** wing IMO. Being the curvy fan that you are, don't you think that wing is a bit edgy? I tihnk its draws too much unwanted attention in the back end.
Originally Posted by 94JZA80
we have very different opinions ...i love the simple rounded-off look of the Supra rear end. sure, it would be nice if the tail lights were actually LED, but at least the light pods flow perfectly with the curves at the rear end. i unfortunately cannot say the same for the G - its too edgy and squared off toward the bottom of the rear bumper for my taste...it just doesn't look very aerodynamic compared to the Supra (i'm not saying it isn't - it just doesn't look it). as for the spoiler and the "fart can" exhaust, i'm not sure if you are referring to the Anthracite Supra or the black one. i prefer the canister style exhaust on the Anthracite Supra, and rather dislike the giant muffler/exhaust tip on the black Supra. both exhaust systems are excellent, so i guess it comes down to the style/look you like. as for the spoiler, its a toss up for me between the OEM (anthracite car) and the TRD/Rod Millen (black car) rear spoiler. i have the OEM spoiler on my car for now...i'm not sure when/if i'll change it to the TRD spoiler.
and i'm very surprised how many people actually think the Top Secret kit makes the Supra look good...i haven't seen such an ugly front end on a Supra since the ricer aerokits that debuted ages ago from companies like Erebuni, C-West, etc. one thing's for sure, people either love this kit or hate it, there's no in between. but hey, that's the beauty of everyone being entitled to his/her opinion .
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...i love the simple rounded-off look of the Supra rear end. sure, it would be nice if the tail lights were actually LED, but at least the light pods flow perfectly with the curves at the rear end. i unfortunately cannot say the same for the G - its too edgy and squared off toward the bottom of the rear bumper for my taste...it just doesn't look very aerodynamic compared to the Supra (i'm not saying it isn't - it just doesn't look it). as for the spoiler and the "fart can" exhaust, i'm not sure if you are referring to the Anthracite Supra or the black one. i prefer the canister style exhaust on the Anthracite Supra, and rather dislike the giant muffler/exhaust tip on the black Supra. both exhaust systems are excellent, so i guess it comes down to the style/look you like. as for the spoiler, its a toss up for me between the OEM (anthracite car) and the TRD/Rod Millen (black car) rear spoiler. i have the OEM spoiler on my car for now...i'm not sure when/if i'll change it to the TRD spoiler.and i'm very surprised how many people actually think the Top Secret kit makes the Supra look good...i haven't seen such an ugly front end on a Supra since the ricer aerokits that debuted ages ago from companies like Erebuni, C-West, etc. one thing's for sure, people either love this kit or hate it, there's no in between. but hey, that's the beauty of everyone being entitled to his/her opinion
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Originally Posted by MIVsupra93-2JZ
Being the curvy fan that you are, don't you think that wing is a bit edgy? I tihnk its draws too much unwanted attention in the back end.
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