Originally Posted by david75077

The TL 6speed manual will DUST an automatic TL - hits 60 in about 5.8 seconds - stock. Comes with 4 piston Brembos up front and weighs 85lbs less than the auto. Since they're all but impossible to find, my guess is, you haven't driven the manual version. I agree, though, the automatic version does feel sluggish - but it's also at least a full second slower to 60 than the manual. The 6 speed TL is quick - very, very quick for a car of that size. But, no, it cannot corner with the G - too soft, and front wheel drive.