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Old 09-21-2004, 10:18 PM
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Default 2005 G35 Coupe 6MT will have LESS tq than auto?

Thats what it said at www.infinitinews.com

It said it in the description and in the specs, so I doubt its a typo

I hope it is though
Old 09-21-2004, 10:41 PM
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it's probably a typo...i wouldn't worry about it...

and even if it is....10lbs/ft isn't enough to give up the joy of shifting...

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Old 09-22-2004, 07:08 AM
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No, it's not a typo. See the thread in the Z Coupe forum about the horsepower difference between the '03 and the '05 Anniversary models. Trust me, you'll be much happier with the 2005 6MT engine.
Old 09-22-2004, 03:20 PM
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why the lower torque in the sportier model though?

makes no sense

unless raising the redline has something to do with it (like the S2000, low torque, 9K redline)
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does the 2005 even come in "6mt"? in the options they have no mention of 6mt, just "manual or auto" and when you try to build a g35coupe they only let you build an auto.

so is the manual in reference to the "manual style shifting"?

And i guess the 2005 really doesn't come with brembos anymore?
Old 11-28-2004, 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by OvaYahead
does the 2005 even come in "6mt"? in the options they have no mention of 6mt, just "manual or auto" and when you try to build a g35coupe they only let you build an auto.

so is the manual in reference to the "manual style shifting"?

And i guess the 2005 really doesn't come with brembos anymore?
Brembos are unfortunately.... Gone!
Old 11-28-2004, 08:33 AM
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Yes, the '05s do come in 6MT. These are not available until sometime in December '04 or January '05 time frame.

Yes, the TQ is slightly lower and I suspect Nissan sacrificed TQ in order to gain the extra HP without doing major engine re-design. HP is for bragging rights, TQ is what gets you going.
Old 11-28-2004, 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroGen
HP is for bragging rights, TQ is what gets you going.
Hense why I went with the 04 6MT rather then waiting for the lower TQ on the 05
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Originally posted by Burrcold
Hense why I went with the 04 6MT rather then waiting for the lower TQ on the 05
exactly! I can't wait till some 05 6mt owner says their coupe is better then my 03 6mt.
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No Brembos either!
Old 11-30-2004, 09:12 PM
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brembo gone, yet bigger rotors i think, less torque but more usable torque and higher HP so i think the trade of is fine... the brembos on pre 05s are brembos but still not up to track use from what i have read so it was for style anyways...
Old 12-03-2004, 03:27 AM
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Sad to see they lowered the torque, and did away with the
Brembo's. I am glad I got an 04 model 6mt!
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Originally posted by OvaYahead
exactly! I can't wait till some 05 6mt owner says their coupe is better then my 03 6mt.
In terms of the engine, it is. The 2005 engine comes with a host of reinforced internals and a better cam profile which all make it much more appealing.

The "old" VQ35 is often criticized as being too truck like; it doesn't rev high enough and its top end power is lacking. The 2005 engine addresses both of these problems - it has a higher redline and much better top-end response.

Furthermore, the old VQ's con rods are pitiful. They are the main reason why a TT kit cannot be properly installed on our cars without rebuilding the bottom end. Take a look in the the F/I forum and see how many engines have failed due to snapped rods. The 2005 engine's rods don't exactly match up to the beautiful forged pieces that many forum members are installing, but are certainly a much needed improvement.

You can at least tell your friend that you've been enjoying your Brembo-equipped car for 2 years longer than he has. But his 2005 engine is better than yours.
Old 12-03-2004, 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by shivak
In terms of the engine, it is. The 2005 engine comes with a host of reinforced internals and a better cam profile which all make it much more appealing.

The "old" VQ35 is often criticized as being too truck like; it doesn't rev high enough and its top end power is lacking. The 2005 engine addresses both of these problems - it has a higher redline and much better top-end response.

Furthermore, the old VQ's con rods are pitiful. They are the main reason why a TT kit cannot be properly installed on our cars without rebuilding the bottom end. Take a look in the the F/I forum and see how many engines have failed due to snapped rods. The 2005 engine's rods don't exactly match up to the beautiful forged pieces that many forum members are installing, but are certainly a much needed improvement.

You can at least tell your friend that you've been enjoying your Brembo-equipped car for 2 years longer than he has. But his 2005 engine is better than yours.
I agree that the 2005 might be better for F/I, but I would like to see a 2005 VQ go against a nice modified VQ with plenum, intake,exhaust, pulley. These mods yield about 300hp at the crank and around 280lb/ft of torque vs 298 hp and 260 lb/ft. This could be interesting considering the 2005 is even heavier.
Old 12-04-2004, 10:44 AM
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In general, I think it is unfair to compare modified cars with stock cars. In any case, the mods you listed may yield a faster-than-2005-spec G35C, but they do little to address the major complaints about the VQ - that it revs too low and has anemic high-RPM power. A plenum can't match a revised cam profile and a higher redline enabled by stronger valve springs. The upgrades address feel and usability, not just technical performance.

I'm pretty disappointed that the G35C is getting even heavier; after all, weight is one of the main reasons why I am getting rid of mine. At least the 2005 upgrades are turning the VQ into a sporty engine instead of just a torque machine.
Old 12-04-2004, 11:39 AM
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Shivak, I'll be interested to hear what you're replacing the G with.

NzZ
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Probably an S2000. Depending on my financial situation and my need for a more practical car, I might end up with a cool sedan like a CTS-V. The GT-R is a possibility, but I am a bit reluctant to buy another Infiniti and it may end up being too expensive for me.
Old 12-05-2004, 08:12 AM
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If you think Infinitis are bad be careful with the S2k...most expensive car I've ever owned (which includes several nissan/infinitis and honda/acuras).

NzZ
Old 12-05-2004, 09:25 AM
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they might of dropped the tq, but modified the tq curve so the car doesn't stop pulling halfway up the tach...

would you rather have about 280tq and lose it at around 4k rpm, or about 270 that keeps pulling to redline (an extended redline)?

stronger internals and little bump in hp is also a plus... but they're all the same car w/ the same motor in the end....

just bugs me when i hear people say i bought an '04 instead of waiting for an '05 because they have less tq, automatically assuming the new G coupe's peformance is lacking
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Originally posted by NzZ
If you think Infinitis are bad be careful with the S2k...most expensive car I've ever owned (which includes several nissan/infinitis and honda/acuras)
Automatic transmissions and US manufacturing plants aside, I think that Hondas are consistently better built than their Nissan counterparts. The only widespread problems I have heard of are soft paint and weak diffs. Unlike Nissan, Honda seems to be interested in fixing the quality problems with their cars...the 2004 update came with a stronger diff, for example.

I doubt that the experience you had is bad compared to some of the horror stories on here - or even compared to what I've had to deal with - but do tell


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