** NEW INTAKE MANIFOLD ** long awaited, with pics
04-22-2005, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
WOW!! I thought the NA numbers would be up by now!! Anyways, I agree this thread must be torture to all of you that must be waiting. Things never seem to go as planned.....oh well. Well whatever happens make sure to start another thread when the numbers are in....
As stated earlier, the reason for the delay in NA numbers was due to a f-up by Fed-Ex.
For those impatient people, with this being a new product and it being ONLY available at the start thru this GB there will be a while before you receive your IM. The plan is for all products to begin shipping no later than 2 weeks after the start of the GB and I think 15 more every 2 weeks afterwards. Keep in mind that this will be a GB and GB's always take A LOT longer than planned.
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04-22-2005, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zachcrosen
Dammit Man!!!
I can cut you a great deal on a used V4 plenum if you are interested when I get my manifold!!! U coming to the BBQ tomorrow??
I can cut you a great deal on a used V4 plenum if you are interested when I get my manifold!!! U coming to the BBQ tomorrow??
04-22-2005, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Losing Grip II
yeh they said a lot of things also....
like they would have the NA numbers up between Wed. or Thur., somehow, i dont think its very hard to find a donor 350z and strap it to a dyno. i mean come on, i would let them use my ride for testing, who wouldnt? there i can only assume their design doesn;t in fact make much more HP than a upper plenum replacement or that with this I/M, it would require the tuner to do cams, ECU retune or something of that nature.
still, if and when this becomes available, ill buy it just because it looks bad azz. also gotta keep in mind that kinetix is a 5 person company and whatever R/D they do probably takes 8times longer than say, crawford. yet i dont think crawford is much bigger- just more experienced.
john
like they would have the NA numbers up between Wed. or Thur., somehow, i dont think its very hard to find a donor 350z and strap it to a dyno. i mean come on, i would let them use my ride for testing, who wouldnt? there i can only assume their design doesn;t in fact make much more HP than a upper plenum replacement or that with this I/M, it would require the tuner to do cams, ECU retune or something of that nature.
still, if and when this becomes available, ill buy it just because it looks bad azz. also gotta keep in mind that kinetix is a 5 person company and whatever R/D they do probably takes 8times longer than say, crawford. yet i dont think crawford is much bigger- just more experienced.
john
Give them some time, I'm sure they're just as eager as we are to get it done, at least it will cut down on the constant nagging and b!tching everyone is doing.
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04-22-2005, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by was wesman
So, since there were delivery mishaps of the plenum, they should have it dynoed anyway ??? How does one dyno with modifications one hasn't received yet ?
Give them some time, I'm sure they're just as eager as we are to get it done, at least it will cut down on the constant nagging and b!tching everyone is doing.
--wes
Give them some time, I'm sure they're just as eager as we are to get it done, at least it will cut down on the constant nagging and b!tching everyone is doing.
--wes
I just don't think we are getting the whole story, or maybe they are still making last minute tweeks, who knows. Either way I don't think we will see the same model intake being used for N/A and FI, I'm not sure you can have the best of both worlds in a single part. There is nothing wrong with that though, and I look forward to being proven wrong
04-22-2005, 05:20 PM
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we are not currently making changes to the manifold to try and continually pull more NA hp from it.
We simply cant run the car because we are waiting for the rev limit increase.
We will post the numbers regardless of the outcome.
We simply cant run the car because we are waiting for the rev limit increase.
We will post the numbers regardless of the outcome.
04-22-2005, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by copba1t
That doesn't make any sense. Isn't the manufacturer the one that designed and prototyped the part to begin with? Surely they have been testing it on N/A cars, who would build a part and then only begin dyno testing just before the release? That's ridiculous.
I just don't think we are getting the whole story, or maybe they are still making last minute tweeks, who knows. Either way I don't think we will see the same model intake being used for N/A and FI, I'm not sure you can have the best of both worlds in a single part. There is nothing wrong with that though, and I look forward to being proven wrong
I just don't think we are getting the whole story, or maybe they are still making last minute tweeks, who knows. Either way I don't think we will see the same model intake being used for N/A and FI, I'm not sure you can have the best of both worlds in a single part. There is nothing wrong with that though, and I look forward to being proven wrong
anyhow, those dyno numbers from the SC Z were....low by comparison from other SC Zs running lower or the same boost.
maybe im wrong tho....
john
04-22-2005, 05:36 PM
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actually early in the thread they said that they did not expect the NA numbers to be that great (not 20hp). I believe they said they had done testing and development with an NA car and the results were decent but not extraordinary. That is why they were all so surpirsed at the numbers with the SC car. Sorry but I don't have the motivation to go re-read through all the pages in this thread. I think they have been very upfront about it all though.
04-22-2005, 08:03 PM
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lsduniqe was shocked at the numbers. While some additional tuning could have been done before the pull and between the V4 and Prototype IM, we went with what we had before and during.
The Vortech SC is installed on a 2003 5AT "Tour". Initial dyno results in 2003, with limited mods (i.e. exhaust, grounding kit and CAI) resulted in approximately 234 rwhp. V4 and SC got in up into the high 330 rwhp, while a 2003 6MT with OEM plenum and Vortech SC here in Albuquerque pulled 370 rwhp.
The "prototype" IM netted 388 rwhp with 7 pounds of boost. Now that the polished plenum is installed, along with new plugs and PE380 injectors, a road tune will be performed before getting back up on the dyno.
lsdunique advised me yesterday that he should be able to post NA numbers on Tuesday. This IM has been a project of Kinetix going on two years. I am confident they will release a quality product.
The Vortech SC is installed on a 2003 5AT "Tour". Initial dyno results in 2003, with limited mods (i.e. exhaust, grounding kit and CAI) resulted in approximately 234 rwhp. V4 and SC got in up into the high 330 rwhp, while a 2003 6MT with OEM plenum and Vortech SC here in Albuquerque pulled 370 rwhp.
The "prototype" IM netted 388 rwhp with 7 pounds of boost. Now that the polished plenum is installed, along with new plugs and PE380 injectors, a road tune will be performed before getting back up on the dyno.
lsdunique advised me yesterday that he should be able to post NA numbers on Tuesday. This IM has been a project of Kinetix going on two years. I am confident they will release a quality product.
04-23-2005, 10:06 AM
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does anyone have pics of this engine cover i keep hearing about??
04-26-2005, 07:23 AM
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no, they will make X amount per week then ship them in order to the people on the list.
so it may take 4-8 weeks to get one after the GB starts.....
so it may take 4-8 weeks to get one after the GB starts.....
04-26-2005, 10:00 AM
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Are you certain?
Originally Posted by all_bark
no, they will make X amount per week then ship them in order to the people on the list.
so it may take 4-8 weeks to get one after the GB starts.....
so it may take 4-8 weeks to get one after the GB starts.....
04-26-2005, 10:06 AM
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We are currently making manifolds, however they wont start shipping for about 2 weeks, and every 2 weeks after that. They have a LOT of work in each piece.
I am posting numbers shortly, just got finished with the dynos.
I am posting numbers shortly, just got finished with the dynos.
04-26-2005, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lsdunique
We are currently making manifolds, however they wont start shipping for about 2 weeks, and every 2 weeks after that. They have a LOT of work in each piece.
I am posting numbers shortly, just got finished with the dynos.
I am posting numbers shortly, just got finished with the dynos.
04-26-2005, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lsdunique
We are currently making manifolds, however they wont start shipping for about 2 weeks, and every 2 weeks after that. They have a LOT of work in each piece.
I am posting numbers shortly, just got finished with the dynos.
I am posting numbers shortly, just got finished with the dynos.
