** NEW INTAKE MANIFOLD ** long awaited, with pics
04-18-2005, 04:50 PM
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Zach, lsdunique has a thread, I have a thread and you have a thread. Wasn't sure which one you asked for engine bay pics. I am bouncing between threads and other sites trying to respond, so I will post here and on the thread I started.
With a little luck, lsdunique will get me out an engine cover so I can put the package together and provide some pics. Here is what you asked for:
With a little luck, lsdunique will get me out an engine cover so I can put the package together and provide some pics. Here is what you asked for:
04-18-2005, 05:00 PM
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SungNamZ,
Donno if this has been brought up before, but other than the dyno, what other differences have you noticed with this new manifold? Such as sound/noise, low-end torque, heat etc...
Thanks
Donno if this has been brought up before, but other than the dyno, what other differences have you noticed with this new manifold? Such as sound/noise, low-end torque, heat etc...
Thanks
04-18-2005, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SungNamZ
Zach, lsdunique has a thread, I have a thread and you have a thread. Wasn't sure which one you asked for engine bay pics. I am bouncing between threads and other sites trying to respond, so I will post here and on the thread I started.
With a little luck, lsdunique will get me out an engine cover so I can put the package together and provide some pics. Here is what you asked for:
With a little luck, lsdunique will get me out an engine cover so I can put the package together and provide some pics. Here is what you asked for:
04-18-2005, 05:30 PM
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Posting to see the NA Dyno #'s. BTW it looks great. One question....Are all the runners the same length ?
04-18-2005, 06:22 PM
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Man i cant wait for those NA numbers. So wed or thursday? I can wait for that. I cant wait to see them and i cant wait for the GB to officially start.
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04-18-2005, 07:31 PM
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Normally I don't like to jump into other manufacturers threads but my own curiosity has gotten the better of me. I have not had the chance to read through the last 14 pages so someone may have covered this.
The dynos provided by Sungnam have a slight "anomoly". The areas circled below are where the peak HP and TRQ numbers are made. This huge spike is normally caused when the dyno operator releases the throttle before pressing the button to stop the dyno computer from sampling the run. The dyno computer freaks out in this situation and registers a spike. I don't know the mechanics behind it, but I have seen this happen on our own dyno. It is adding anywhere from 10 to 20 peak HP to the chart. Can we see the other two graphs?
The dynos provided by Sungnam have a slight "anomoly". The areas circled below are where the peak HP and TRQ numbers are made. This huge spike is normally caused when the dyno operator releases the throttle before pressing the button to stop the dyno computer from sampling the run. The dyno computer freaks out in this situation and registers a spike. I don't know the mechanics behind it, but I have seen this happen on our own dyno. It is adding anywhere from 10 to 20 peak HP to the chart. Can we see the other two graphs?
04-18-2005, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamic6er
Normally I don't like to jump into other manufacturers threads but my own curiosity has gotten the better of me. I have not had the chance to read through the last 14 pages so someone may have covered this.
The dynos provided by Sungnam have a slight "anomoly". The areas circled below are where the peak HP and TRQ numbers are made. This huge spike is normally caused when the dyno operator releases the throttle before pressing the button to stop the dyno computer from sampling the run. The dyno computer freaks out in this situation and registers a spike. I don't know the mechanics behind it, but I have seen this happen on our own dyno. It is adding anywhere from 10 to 20 peak HP to the chart. Can we see the other two graphs?
The dynos provided by Sungnam have a slight "anomoly". The areas circled below are where the peak HP and TRQ numbers are made. This huge spike is normally caused when the dyno operator releases the throttle before pressing the button to stop the dyno computer from sampling the run. The dyno computer freaks out in this situation and registers a spike. I don't know the mechanics behind it, but I have seen this happen on our own dyno. It is adding anywhere from 10 to 20 peak HP to the chart. Can we see the other two graphs?
We then did three pulls with the "new' intake. For comparison, as shown on dyno graph, we took the 1st pull with the V4 and first with the "new" intake. However, your concerns are valid and time does not appear to be an issue. I will go by speed dream tomorrow and get pulls 2 and 3 with IM, take pics and post.
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04-18-2005, 08:13 PM
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sungnam, maybe a video would help instead?
I don't think Dave is accusing Speed Dreams of doing it on purpose to show a higher number or if they are doing that on purpose...that they know what effect it is causing.
If you can't do a video...it's no problem. If you do get a video, I can host it for you if you need.
I don't think Dave is accusing Speed Dreams of doing it on purpose to show a higher number or if they are doing that on purpose...that they know what effect it is causing.
If you can't do a video...it's no problem. If you do get a video, I can host it for you if you need.
04-18-2005, 08:33 PM
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Speed Dreams has nothing to gain. If and or when this happened, they volunteered there services to me not Kinetix. They do not carry Kinetix products or were they paid by Kinetix to perform this service.
With me having the TS "Limited Flash" my rev limit is 7100+. Pulls in November went to 7200 with Vortech SC and V4. Max POWER 337.9 and Max TORQUE 287.0
Kind of late for a video. With the recent information that Split Second has posted on their website, I am probably going to "road tune" the intake and Vortech SC using Zeitronix Wideband and R4 program before going back up on the dyno with the IM. As I said in the previous post, I will visit Speed Dreams tomorrow and get copies of runs 2 and 3 with the IM.
With me having the TS "Limited Flash" my rev limit is 7100+. Pulls in November went to 7200 with Vortech SC and V4. Max POWER 337.9 and Max TORQUE 287.0
Kind of late for a video. With the recent information that Split Second has posted on their website, I am probably going to "road tune" the intake and Vortech SC using Zeitronix Wideband and R4 program before going back up on the dyno with the IM. As I said in the previous post, I will visit Speed Dreams tomorrow and get copies of runs 2 and 3 with the IM.
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04-18-2005, 09:24 PM
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Ahh...I thought you meant you were going up there for another dyno.
Thanks for clarifying...that means it was not intentional and that they did not know it would do that. All good.
Thanks for clarifying...that means it was not intentional and that they did not know it would do that. All good.
04-19-2005, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SungNamZ
Speed Dreams has nothing to gain. If and or when this happened, they volunteered there services to me not Kinetix. They do not carry Kinetix products or were they paid by Kinetix to perform this service.
With me having the TS "Limited Flash" my rev limit is 7100+. Pulls in November went to 7200 with Vortech SC and V4. Max POWER 337.9 and Max TORQUE 287.0
Kind of late for a video. With the recent information that Split Second has posted on their website, I am probably going to "road tune" the intake and Vortech SC using Zeitronix Wideband and R4 program before going back up on the dyno with the IM. As I said in the previous post, I will visit Speed Dreams tomorrow and get copies of runs 2 and 3 with the IM.
With me having the TS "Limited Flash" my rev limit is 7100+. Pulls in November went to 7200 with Vortech SC and V4. Max POWER 337.9 and Max TORQUE 287.0
Kind of late for a video. With the recent information that Split Second has posted on their website, I am probably going to "road tune" the intake and Vortech SC using Zeitronix Wideband and R4 program before going back up on the dyno with the IM. As I said in the previous post, I will visit Speed Dreams tomorrow and get copies of runs 2 and 3 with the IM.
04-19-2005, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by zachcrosen
What info has been posted on Split Seconds website??
04-19-2005, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
sungnam, maybe a video would help instead?
I don't think Dave is accusing Speed Dreams of doing it on purpose to show a higher number or if they are doing that on purpose...that they know what effect it is causing.
If you can't do a video...it's no problem. If you do get a video, I can host it for you if you need.
I don't think Dave is accusing Speed Dreams of doing it on purpose to show a higher number or if they are doing that on purpose...that they know what effect it is causing.
If you can't do a video...it's no problem. If you do get a video, I can host it for you if you need.
Yeah I just want to clarify. nis350ztt is correct, I am not accusing anyone of anything. It normally happens by accident. The button is just pushed a half second late. When a car is racing towards redline while your watching 5 different gauges and listening for detonation things get hairy. I just wanted to see the other graphs. No harm in that right. The runs were made, why not?