** NEW INTAKE MANIFOLD ** long awaited, with pics
04-07-2005, 06:47 PM
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Awesome!!
I think a LS1 design, like 3 runners coming out to the left and 3 to the right would have been better looking. Did you try that design? That would have been real interesting.
I think a LS1 design, like 3 runners coming out to the left and 3 to the right would have been better looking. Did you try that design? That would have been real interesting.
04-07-2005, 06:58 PM
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Awesome!!
I think a LS1 design, like 3 runners coming out to the left and 3 to the right would have been better looking. Did you try that design? That would have been real interesting.
I think a LS1 design, like 3 runners coming out to the left and 3 to the right would have been better looking. Did you try that design? That would have been real interesting.
04-07-2005, 06:59 PM
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not to discredit these guys ,but really bro, it just sounds TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE> anyone else feel the same...if 50 horsepower are seen(what does he have on that car?) if its fi then maybe na will see 20hp? i dont know theres just been alot of stuff that got all hyped up and then your let down somehow...if you could please better explain the setup on the car you dynoed. and im REALLY waiting for na numbers....i think it would be good to get a dyno na with a car lightly tuned...like exhaust, intake, then stock plenum vs your plenum...cause i would bet alot of people on here are still lightly tuned cars, and when you post big numbers it looks real good but if the car is heavily tuned those numbers mean crap to most of us...just my2cents
04-07-2005, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatmitzu
wow... but I assume it will be bing bing $$$
04-07-2005, 07:06 PM
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The results are great but N/A numbers (versus stock plenum) will be important to see. If somehow it squeezes out 25-30 then it will be a very worthwhile mod and the price will be justified. Gotta show significant gains over Crawford.
Does anyone know if there is an N/A dyno scheduled ?
Does anyone know if there is an N/A dyno scheduled ?
04-07-2005, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mario60185
not to discredit these guys ,but really bro, it just sounds TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE> anyone else feel the same...if 50 horsepower are seen(what does he have on that car?) if its fi then maybe na will see 20hp? i dont know theres just been alot of stuff that got all hyped up and then your let down somehow...if you could please better explain the setup on the car you dynoed. and im REALLY waiting for na numbers....i think it would be good to get a dyno na with a car lightly tuned...like exhaust, intake, then stock plenum vs your plenum...cause i would bet alot of people on here are still lightly tuned cars, and when you post big numbers it looks real good but if the car is heavily tuned those numbers mean crap to most of us...just my2cents
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04-07-2005, 07:15 PM
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I am not seeing any numbers. Did you post a dyno graph? Can you just post what the before after numbers where?
Originally Posted by SungNamZ
Yes! Removed the Kinetix V4 and lower manifold and installed "Prototype".
This is the "out of the box", 1st dyno pull without additional tuning.
This is the "out of the box", 1st dyno pull without additional tuning.
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04-07-2005, 08:11 PM
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awesome design. im wondering if you guys can do like a lay-a-way type thing for a group buy for me 
but i have 2 questions.. and i hope they arent too n00bish
1) did you guys try putting in individual throttlebodiess during testing... or would it would it not have done anything performance wise?
2) if i have a nismo cold air.. will it still fit on that manifold??
but i have 2 questions.. and i hope they arent too n00bish
1) did you guys try putting in individual throttlebodiess during testing... or would it would it not have done anything performance wise?
2) if i have a nismo cold air.. will it still fit on that manifold??
04-07-2005, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
I am not seeing any numbers. Did you post a dyno graph? Can you just post what the before after numbers where?
04-07-2005, 08:38 PM
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holy **** that's impressive. but i imagine the majority of Z owners are still N/A. can't wait to see the graph. nice job on the design.
on the subject, would it be possible to make a plenum that looks like an ls1? where it has the 6 runners, and then the inlet facing the front of the car then relocating the MAF to infront of that? just wondering.
on the subject, would it be possible to make a plenum that looks like an ls1? where it has the 6 runners, and then the inlet facing the front of the car then relocating the MAF to infront of that? just wondering.
04-07-2005, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by projectmrod
awesome design. im wondering if you guys can do like a lay-a-way type thing for a group buy for me
but i have 2 questions.. and i hope they arent too n00bish
1) did you guys try putting in individual throttlebodiess during testing... or would it would it not have done anything performance wise?
2) if i have a nismo cold air.. will it still fit on that manifold??
but i have 2 questions.. and i hope they arent too n00bish
1) did you guys try putting in individual throttlebodiess during testing... or would it would it not have done anything performance wise?
2) if i have a nismo cold air.. will it still fit on that manifold??
Not familar with the "nismo cold air", but if it connects to the OEM Throttle Body, it should fit. I did not have to make any adjustment to the Vortech SC piping or MAF housing.
04-07-2005, 09:05 PM
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Wow. great! its been such a long time and its finally here! yay.
as for N/A...isnt this piece designed more for FI, so NA shouldnt even see much of a gain at all should it?
But if there is going to be a dyno, I volunteer my car. exhaust, HF cats, chip, and intake. Plus im in the area. =) cant wait to see this.
as for N/A...isnt this piece designed more for FI, so NA shouldnt even see much of a gain at all should it?
But if there is going to be a dyno, I volunteer my car. exhaust, HF cats, chip, and intake. Plus im in the area. =) cant wait to see this.
04-07-2005, 09:06 PM
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Thanks Sung,
I was logged on through my company network and the firewall was blocking imagestation. I see it now.
Can you clarify one thing though? With these mods Vortech SC, Kinetix V4, Borla Exhaust and RT Cats you should be higher than 333rwhp. I had a vortech on my car recently and with top spead headers, test pipes, 3" b pipe, and greddy sp2 my best dyno was 380rwhp...my lowest was 362. Most vortech guys are getting close to the 380rhwp area with breathing mods. Why was yours so low before the new intake.
I was logged on through my company network and the firewall was blocking imagestation. I see it now.
Can you clarify one thing though? With these mods Vortech SC, Kinetix V4, Borla Exhaust and RT Cats you should be higher than 333rwhp. I had a vortech on my car recently and with top spead headers, test pipes, 3" b pipe, and greddy sp2 my best dyno was 380rwhp...my lowest was 362. Most vortech guys are getting close to the 380rhwp area with breathing mods. Why was yours so low before the new intake.
04-07-2005, 09:12 PM
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ok i think some people may be confused the stock 350z manifolds upper is two parts ,THEN the lower houses the rail and injectors.
Correct me if im wrong put this new IM bolts to the top of the lower IM and not the 3.5 heads.
As for maxima owners all the plenum makers would have to do is where the first bend starts (in the TB neck) slightly into that bend put the TB bolt on flange there and maxima people can use this. Ill prob just buy one and have a SS flange welded on because mine will use a pathfinder cable TB.
I believe maxima owners will have to buy a 350z lower (part that injectors go in,and part that bolts to heads) to make this work.
Correct me if im wrong put this new IM bolts to the top of the lower IM and not the 3.5 heads.
As for maxima owners all the plenum makers would have to do is where the first bend starts (in the TB neck) slightly into that bend put the TB bolt on flange there and maxima people can use this. Ill prob just buy one and have a SS flange welded on because mine will use a pathfinder cable TB.
I believe maxima owners will have to buy a 350z lower (part that injectors go in,and part that bolts to heads) to make this work.
04-07-2005, 10:07 PM
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His numbers were lower than most vortechs, mainly because of the high elevation. I believe (correct me if I am worng) that he is at about 5000 ft elevation.
Also to be noted is that SungnamZ has done numerous dyno pulls, with the same shop/tuner. His car has been tweeked and tuned for some time now, and the before and after runs were done with zero tuning in between.
This manifold will bolt up with ANY aftermarket intake, or any FI kit, because it uses the same mounting locations as the factory manifold.
We will be getting detailed weights vs. stock manifold within a day or two. I expect this new manifold to be slightly lighter.
I would NOT expect 20hp gains in NA form, we will have before/after dyno runs in NA form within about 10 days, but it is very possible that with a rev limit increase we may approach 20hp, because the manifold really starts to pull 6k and beyond.
Also to be noted is that SungnamZ has done numerous dyno pulls, with the same shop/tuner. His car has been tweeked and tuned for some time now, and the before and after runs were done with zero tuning in between.
This manifold will bolt up with ANY aftermarket intake, or any FI kit, because it uses the same mounting locations as the factory manifold.
We will be getting detailed weights vs. stock manifold within a day or two. I expect this new manifold to be slightly lighter.
I would NOT expect 20hp gains in NA form, we will have before/after dyno runs in NA form within about 10 days, but it is very possible that with a rev limit increase we may approach 20hp, because the manifold really starts to pull 6k and beyond.