You will be removing eveything until it looks like this:

 

Woot just sent my payments in, now looking forward to getting it!

 

I was talking to a few guys over at AAM and these numbers

V4 Plenum --> 333.9 HP / 288.2 TQ
Manifold --> 388.9 HP / 294.2 TQ

They look very odd for the Vortech.

I am making 360/330 with my stock Vortech after a good tune. We are assuming all the VSS did was lean out the A/F. Can you post something about where the car was at as far as A/F before and after? Also why was it making such low power with the Vortech to start with?
Thanks!

 

I believe the car is at 5k altittude which lowers the # 's considerably.. The way to look at the dyno results is on the delta between the V-4 and IM. I don't frankly see any significant tq. improvement in the mid rpm range which is where I would like it to be..

 

Here's what I think the crazy amount of hp increase was due to.

It doesn't seem like Sungnam was tuned before he placed the IM on. We all know Vortech comes with an overly rich setup, so when you lean out the motor you're going to make 30-50 hp. I would like to see a car that's well tuned add this part and get retuned. This device is too radical to just simply bolt on and not retune. (If you are tuned). Also as far as the NA numbers released, it doesn't seem to do any better than the crawford or the V4. I'm still not sold either, but damn it looks good.

 

Why am I blocked from posting on the GB thread?

I'm ready to order but not willing to send CC info over unsecured net to a hot mail account. This should be in the store on the website so I get order confirmation etc. Seems a little strange IMHO.

 

What seems strange is everyone is jumping on this buy without looking at the actual production of RWHP. hehe Like Gspot said, nothing very convincing or impressive here. I can get a used crawford for 250 and get the same gains..
as of right now we have a beautiful cosmetic mod that is $800.00..hmm

 

Well, sooner or later, I'll be retuning my car with the new intake & a new fuel management system, but it likely won't occur until late June or early July.

Personally, if you're only interest in this piece is power gain, I think the best thing you can do is wait for more independent dynos. I'm sure they will come and my belief is they will show gains for FI applications. On the otherhand, if power gains are only one of the reasons you want this, you should way how much each benefit means to you.

For me, the benefits are...
1. Easier access to other motor parts for maintenance - BIG benefit for me
2. Bling-Bling factor - BIG benefit
3. Power gains - Moderate to small benefit for me; this will be the biggest one for most, tho.
4. Weight savings - reported to be around 12lbs lighter. Small benefit

 

subscribing

 

Everything with the hotmail acct is legit. Do you not have Paypal? You can use that method. Either way, Robert will send you a confirmation within 1 day upon receipt of your order. I sent CC info to the address as did another member that I know of. Kinetix is a sponsor on this forum so they are not "out to get you". Look at their customer service, they are all about customer satisfaction. If you still dont feel safe emailing them this info, just call Kinetix and ask to talk directly with Robert. Im sure he will take your money!

 

I know several members are not able to post in the GB thread. I think it has something to do with being a premier member. No you dont have to be a premier member to get in on this GB! I PMed GodZilla asking him to move it but to no avail yet!

 

If in doubt with anything related to this GB, PM me with questions.

Zach

 

One question is this going to be for sure sent out on the 13th? Cause Im going to book my dyno time for the 19th at z car garage

 

Can anyone that recieves this and has already been tuned FI please .... PLEASE post Dyno results. I have a very large handful that are interested to the 50rwhp increase validity on actual gains or shift in A/F allowing for more RWHP
ThanK!

 

vald, I think the GB will be over before anyone will get one of these intake manifolds.

 

I do think this will not be the ONLY group buy. Anyways if my ( and a few others') theories are correct the demand will drop, price will drop , and maybe hit an equilibrium near the same price as the V5, APS Plenum and the CrawVer2. Unless Kintex can prove the gains from a tuned Vortech with a gain of 50rwhp is accurate then we will remain skeptical, not to imply anything shady, only that the figures may be inaccurate due to the Vortech's rich tuning.

 

I think you will be waiting a long time. Based on the R&D and appearance of the final design, a lot of time & effort was made to make this piece correctly. The difference between this and the Kinetix V4 or Crawford upper plenum, I think, will be about like comparing Crawford's headers to most other header offerings. The extra R&D time yield better results. More development time for a better product means higher cost. Again, anyone who has reservations should probably wait to see what the first buyers yield. The price you pay for not being one of the trailblazers is that you have to pay a little more if and when you decide to buy it.

Will the results be on par with SungNam's dynos? Maybe, maybe not. But based on the design being used, I find it hard to believe it won't yield better numbers than just an upper plenum replacement, especially in an FI application.

 

Well Im excited to see .. If I see great gains with the system I will def be more than happy to be trailblazer and incure the extra cost ..

 

mcduck,
how do you know how good this thing is, your basing your opinions simply on aesthetics. do you even know what aspects of an intake manifold's design make power?

 

If I'm not mistaken, what aspect of DYNO results, concerning a properly tuned Vortech would give you the inclination of me using aesthetics as my detemrining factor of performance of aforementioned product?
Please do enlighten me and my fellow Z owners that are as curious as myself.