Injen Arrived - SERIOUS concerns, may not install?
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Injen Arrived - SERIOUS concerns, may not install?
I got my Injen intake today as well, thanks much to Jeremy over at Street Sports. At first I had ordered the AEM, but saw that the Injen made a teeeenie weeenie bit more power, so I switched over. However, after opening it up and looking at the instruction booklet, I am a bit apprehensive. The final picture shows the completed installation, with the filter smack dab RIGHT BEHIND the front horizontal slats of the grille. Now it was raining pretty hard today in Los Angeles, and it got me to thinking, isn't that a pretty risky location what with water going straight into the grille like when driving on the freeway or just water being splashed? I wish I had my digicam w/ me to show you guys what I mean, but the open air element filter is basically placed right behind the open grille with the cold air setup. It's not covered AT ALL from the front except by the horizontal slats spaced like 3/4 inch apart. Does anyone know what the AEM setup looks like compared to this? Maybe I will cut down the length of the tube so it won't run as far down... we'll see..
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Re: Injen Arrived - SERIOUS concerns, may not install?
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I got my Injen intake today as well, thanks much to Jeremy over at Street Sports. At first I had ordered the AEM, but saw that the Injen made a teeeenie weeenie bit more power, so I switched over. However, after opening it up and looking at the instruction booklet, I am a bit apprehensive. The final picture shows the completed installation, with the filter smack dab RIGHT BEHIND the front horizontal slats of the grille. Now it was raining pretty hard today in Los Angeles, and it got me to thinking, isn't that a pretty risky location what with water going straight into the grille like when driving on the freeway or just water being splashed? I wish I had my digicam w/ me to show you guys what I mean, but the open air element filter is basically placed right behind the open grille with the cold air setup. It's not covered AT ALL from the front except by the horizontal slats spaced like 3/4 inch apart. Does anyone know what the AEM setup looks like compared to this? Maybe I will cut down the length of the tube so it won't run as far down... we'll see..
I got my Injen intake today as well, thanks much to Jeremy over at Street Sports. At first I had ordered the AEM, but saw that the Injen made a teeeenie weeenie bit more power, so I switched over. However, after opening it up and looking at the instruction booklet, I am a bit apprehensive. The final picture shows the completed installation, with the filter smack dab RIGHT BEHIND the front horizontal slats of the grille. Now it was raining pretty hard today in Los Angeles, and it got me to thinking, isn't that a pretty risky location what with water going straight into the grille like when driving on the freeway or just water being splashed? I wish I had my digicam w/ me to show you guys what I mean, but the open air element filter is basically placed right behind the open grille with the cold air setup. It's not covered AT ALL from the front except by the horizontal slats spaced like 3/4 inch apart. Does anyone know what the AEM setup looks like compared to this? Maybe I will cut down the length of the tube so it won't run as far down... we'll see..
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Changing it out involves taking off the entire bumper... I don't feel like doing that everytime it's going to rain for several days..lol. Doesn't the AEM have some sort of mechanism to prevent the filter from sucking up water?
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Changing it out involves taking off the entire bumper... I don't feel like doing that everytime it's going to rain for several days..lol. Doesn't the AEM have some sort of mechanism to prevent the filter from sucking up water?
Changing it out involves taking off the entire bumper... I don't feel like doing that everytime it's going to rain for several days..lol. Doesn't the AEM have some sort of mechanism to prevent the filter from sucking up water?
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Re: Re: Injen Arrived - SERIOUS concerns, may not install?
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Hey man, nothing to worry about. Little rain isn't going to hurt your engine unless it's completely flooded and the filter is actually in water (submerged). I've never heard of such problems with CAI unless the person drove into a flood or deep snow.
Hey man, nothing to worry about. Little rain isn't going to hurt your engine unless it's completely flooded and the filter is actually in water (submerged). I've never heard of such problems with CAI unless the person drove into a flood or deep snow.
i dont know much of the nissan MAF, but on the subaru, it was extremely sensitive to water... just something to point out.
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I guess that with this filter, it woul dbe a bad idea to drive on a dirt road, or any road that is extremely dusty. With this set up, you will have to clean the air filter quite often.
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you could always fabricate a shield to put around it like incase it from the front sides and bottom, just leave the top open. and mount it on the filter. make it out of thin sheet metal. bend it however you want. use a clamp or something to hold it in place.
you could use a mesh too, like gutter gaurd. that would stop leaves and rocks from hitting it. have both and use each for your various needs.
yes it would impair your power, but should be easier to remove. for when you want. while it would be easier, youd have to get to it... which might be tricky. if you could remove the black slits itd be simple. can you?
you could use a mesh too, like gutter gaurd. that would stop leaves and rocks from hitting it. have both and use each for your various needs.
yes it would impair your power, but should be easier to remove. for when you want. while it would be easier, youd have to get to it... which might be tricky. if you could remove the black slits itd be simple. can you?
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......it will be fine.
I drove my avenger with the filter less then 4" off the ground. A couple times I drove it in 4"+ of water at high speeds (90+) and dead stopped. It was fine. ONE TIME it sucked in water and the car stalled...........started back up. But one time outta 3 years aint bad.
I drove my avenger with the filter less then 4" off the ground. A couple times I drove it in 4"+ of water at high speeds (90+) and dead stopped. It was fine. ONE TIME it sucked in water and the car stalled...........started back up. But one time outta 3 years aint bad.
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At that location, you will most likely not get hydrolock, but definitely alot more dirt, thus leading to more frequent cleaning.
Personally, the location of the Injen looks ghetto. I, personally, would just stick to the stock intake for now. Discrete and highly functional.
Personally, the location of the Injen looks ghetto. I, personally, would just stick to the stock intake for now. Discrete and highly functional.
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Re: Here ya go
Originally posted by insaneamine
Hey z461,
Here is a photo of the manual.
Hey z461,
Here is a photo of the manual.
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At that location, you will most likely not get hydrolock, but definitely alot more dirt, thus leading to more frequent cleaning.
Personally, the location of the Injen looks ghetto. I, personally, would just stick to the stock intake for now. Discrete and highly functional.
At that location, you will most likely not get hydrolock, but definitely alot more dirt, thus leading to more frequent cleaning.
Personally, the location of the Injen looks ghetto. I, personally, would just stick to the stock intake for now. Discrete and highly functional.
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Nah it wont be ghetto in person. Keep in mind the camera is 10" away from the grill. Most likely with a FLASH and shot in about 5" off the ground.
Unless your a smurf with a miners helmet I dont think it will look ghetto.
Unless your a smurf with a miners helmet I dont think it will look ghetto.
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I personally would not want this type of kit for a daily driver. The filter is completely exposed to the elements. Dust, dirt, insects and rain will be hitting that filter at high velocities. Will it cause damage to your engine? Probably not. But the filter will be damaged or at least will require FREQUENT cleaning.
My 1990 300ZX TT had hydrostatic lock due to water being pulled into the intakes which were VERY low on the bumper. I hit a large puddle and the water was pulled in like a vacuum cleaner totaling my engine. Granted, this is not the same situation, but intakes certainly should not be subjected to direct water contact, which will certainly happen with your Injen intake.
My 1990 300ZX TT had hydrostatic lock due to water being pulled into the intakes which were VERY low on the bumper. I hit a large puddle and the water was pulled in like a vacuum cleaner totaling my engine. Granted, this is not the same situation, but intakes certainly should not be subjected to direct water contact, which will certainly happen with your Injen intake.
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just thought of another idea, someone made a grill thing out of gutter gaurd or similair. if he used door screen material(that real fine stuff) and mounted it even behind the slits somehow, it would stop all debris from hitting your air filter and ratiatior, and also it would act as a barrier to water, the water would be atomized when it hit it, sure it would get through thats the point, but it would be a mist not drops.
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LOL... guess I will have to fabricate something then.. I'm thinking some Home Depot style stuff should work. I'll let you guys know. Probably still go through the install and do it Wednesday. I bet what with these mixed reviews Injen isn't going to sell a lot of these.