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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy@Performance
Trust me guys, all your questions will be answered very soon. The product is finalized, just not ready for the market but will be very soon. I know its agony to hear such things about a new product but it will be worth the wait.
Sport Z Magazine recently completed an independent test of spacers and plenums on an 04 350Z. While we were at it we tested Motordyne's M-REV mod on two 05 G35 MTs. One was prue stock and one had "typical" aftermarket intake and exhaust system mods. The results with be in our upcoming winter issue. For a preview of the M-REV results... see Andy@Performance posts.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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holy crap!! too bad i don't have a rev-up motor...
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cvt
holy crap!! too bad i don't have a rev-up motor...
this is what i'm thinking.

you guys seem to know about this intake **** better than anyone. what is the best combo possible to massive gains on the 287 motor?
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Not to be a d!ck, but imo there is still no truth to what you say. People have to take the "true" dyno numbers with a grain of salt when A) the manufacturer claims so and so gains(like it was done in the other thread), and/or B) a Distributor of the product makes claims-who obviouslly wants to make $$. So the question is, do you currently or will you in the future sell this product? If your answer is yes, I still want a 100% independent dyno.

Edit-doesnt matter if you sell it or not, you were working with the guy making the product, we still dont have a 100% independent customer dyno to validate these claims.

+1 I'm with you Alberto...

As an Industrial Designer I don't doubt what Hydrazine is claiming, but if his claims are not backed by others ie regular joes with "similar conditions for the dyno test" he is going to ruin his rep. pretty fast. And I hope those who back the claims in Hydrazines defenense, if and only if the dynos don't go their way, do not try to back out of anything with technicalities. I welcome a product that can add 15-21hp to a rev-up motor by simply bolting it on... good for Hydrazine and the Z community in general.

I have plenty of patience and look forward to the independent dynos

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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zquicksilver
+1 I'm with you Alberto...

...but if his claims are not backed by others ie regular joes with "similar conditions for the dyno test" he is going to ruin his rep. pretty fast. ...

I have plenty of patience and look forward to the independent dynos

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One of the problems with "regular joes" doing dynos is that their results can be just as questionable. Remember the infamous AFE intake? The "independent" dyno that was done was basically useless. Then, everybody looked to Performance to do a reliable, trustworthy one.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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The upcoming Sport Z magazine article should help those concerned with an accurate dyno testing procedure on this and other Plenum products. We followed an agreed upon testing procedure with all those involved.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Not that I care about the spacer but, when will the Winter issue begin to mail? It's already starting to feel like winter around here.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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i dont doubt Tony or PNissan's claims here

from what ive seen, Tony is always underestimating his gains, and its been the users that have added the 3-5hp from their own independant dynos

bring on the M-REV, i need it

btw, is that 17 hp at the wheels? can you feel it when driving?
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Your right DaveZ#3 about "regular joes" and dynos, but it won't hurt when some of those regular joes (ie customers like myself, not associated with anyone) go to reputable places known for consistent and accurate dynos and show or not show a gain. If it's real and legit the word will leak throughout the forums that this is a proven and guaranteed mod... like say a light weight flywheel, cams or nitrous. All I'm looking for is 10 out of 10 guys showing an average gain and I'm sold, given the price justifies the gains Again, if it's legit, the product will speak for itself. Which I hope it does

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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The Winter 2006 issue of Sport Z Magazine will release around Dec. 1 and will start arriving in mailboxes and on newsstands within the week. Details will be announced on www.sportzmagazine.com in early November. Thanks for asking.

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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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I also gained and posted my dyno on g35driver.com. I am the Texas Beta Tester

Originally Posted by Andy@Performance
We have been hearing and seeing a lot of threads about Motordynes new mod for the Rev Up motors. There have been a lot of speculation about the numbers that this mod was producing, I have seen somewhere along the lines of 21HP and 19 pounds of torque. I can see why a lot of people would be skeptical about these numbers especially when these numbers were taken off of a Dynopack.

Performance Nissan and Tony Colette of Motordyne Engineering have been working together for the past week on this new mod for the Rev Up motor. We tested this new mod on my car on the a Dynojet and its peak power gain was 17HP and 19 pounds of torque. I have not seen this much of a gain from a bolt on mod for the 350Z. We can tell you that it is a plenum mod and the package does consists of more than 1 part. We cannot disclose any more information on this as of right now but we will have a full article with dyno sheets and details of this new mod in the upcoming weeks so be sure to keep a look out!
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Not to be a d!ck, but imo there is still no truth to what you say. People have to take the "true" dyno numbers with a grain of salt when A) the manufacturer claims so and so gains(like it was done in the other thread), and/or B) a Distributor of the product makes claims-who obviouslly wants to make $$. So the question is, do you currently or will you in the future sell this product? If your answer is yes, I still want a 100% independent dyno.

Edit-doesnt matter if you sell it or not, you were working with the guy making the product, we still dont have a 100% independent customer dyno to validate these claims.

He was a 100% independent dyno and so was I. I did a before and after and gained a enourmous amount of power. Here is a before and after dyno of my car. Okay guys here it is. Please read what I am going to say BEFORE looking at the graph.

I am going to put up the comparison runs between the first dyno and the new dyno.

A few things need to be considered when looking at this graph.

1) This is possibly the first 6mt Sedan tested wtih this mod.
2) This is also the first car with 93 octane gas.
3) The dyno operator doesn't look like he went right down to the floor right away on the new run due to the air/fuel meter and lower tq at the beginning compared to other runs. The ECU was acting a bit strange at that point. So take this into account as well. The car gained low end, it didn't loose. I autox this car and it use to bog a bit off the line, now, it rips to where I have no traction. So I know the car didn't loose, this was a dyno operator issue (we assume).

Now I measured with a ruler the distances between each section and then checked the lines. The car did gain about 18-19 TQ and about 17-18 hp in the biggest area around 4k-4800 rpms. This is a large jump! It also gained a little before and after those areas as well.

This is the most important area to gain power. Mid range power is what usually wins races. It is what makes your car faster. We rarely go above 6200~ where I lost a little due to the mod. You are only up in that area for a very short time.

Now understanding everything I just typed. Here is the new dyno graph. This is a dyno by a independent person MYSELF. Not by the company. This is TRUE results.

The blue line was stock

The red line was motordyne

Car gained 15-20 hp and TQ in the certain areas you see.


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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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I need more info... I'm dying to know what's going on. I've heard of this new mod weeks ago and held off buying any spacers until this thing was finally out for everyone to see.

+4 or 5 on how this mod will work on the 287 HP z's.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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holy Crap! It's Russ of b15sentra.net fame! I'm from there too

And +1 on the "will it work with the 287hp motors"

I am just wondering why an answer hasn't been said yet, just a simple yes or no?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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I'd like to know how it'd do on a non-rev-up, too. Is it even being tested on the 287 hp motors?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Its been posted on other threads, that it is specifically for the 300HP engine and has not been tested on the 287. I am trying to get that done soon though.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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i can beta test for a 287 motor. 03 bone stock. well k&n panel filter...........
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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what about people who already got a spacer with the "rev up" motor? can we get a core exhange on this new mod? aslo have you tested it on a forced induction vehicle yet? and if not can we?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by paranormal
what about people who already got a spacer with the "rev up" motor? can we get a core exhange on this new mod? aslo have you tested it on a forced induction vehicle yet? and if not can we?
That sounds like a plan.
I would like to see it tested on a FI vehicle. I can hook you up as a previous customer and for beta testing on a FI application. Would you be able to install it on the dyno and do another set of pulls immediatly after?

I'm sure everyone would like to see this.

Tony

BTW sorry to hear about your engine. ...At least now you can make lemonade out of lemons.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chimmike
holy Crap! It's Russ of b15sentra.net fame! I'm from there too

And +1 on the "will it work with the 287hp motors"

I am just wondering why an answer hasn't been said yet, just a simple yes or no?
Haha, hey its chimmike! Seems like a lot of our SE-R/SR20DE friends have stepped up to the Z33 platform
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