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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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AFIAK only XERD & Supersprint make full length headers for the Z33 & V35. I searched the archives and found some information about them. Is anyone using them and if so what are your impressions (I want to recieve feedback from those using the supersprint headers as they are really hard to find in the US). How is the quality and durability of the XERD headers? Does anyone have before & after comparison dyno charts? Do you lose a lot of low end torque with either headers? From what I hear (and what I have reasearched) these headers really boost power in the top part of the powerband. Thanks!
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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My apologies for not being able to answer your questions, but sure would appreciate photos after the install. Thanks.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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I am also interested in a set of Long Tubes. As far as I know only XERD and Supersprint have had them on the market. 350EVO was supposed to make a set but they got out of the 350 market.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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I think BJ at 350EVO had the XERD headers then switched to Crawford and made more power or torque, I can't remember exactly.

You can email him:
bj@350evo.com
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LouZer
I think BJ at 350EVO had the XERD headers then switched to Crawford and made more power or torque, I can't remember exactly.

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bj@350evo.com
Yeah, im pretty sure that 350evo switched to crawfords for their racecars.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 04:22 AM
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Long tube, equal length headers:

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Frostydc4
AFIAK only XERD & Supersprint make full length headers for the Z33 & V35. I searched the archives and found some information about them. Is anyone using them and if so what are your impressions (I want to recieve feedback from those using the supersprint headers as they are really hard to find in the US). How is the quality and durability of the XERD headers? Does anyone have before & after comparison dyno charts? Do you lose a lot of low end torque with either headers? From what I hear (and what I have reasearched) these headers really boost power in the top part of the powerband. Thanks!
I have had my Xerd Headers along with Injen Exhaust for approx.2 years and they are IMO very good quality and durable.I did lose low end tq and I agree that there is a considerable amount of MORE power in the upper powerband.I did see a big increase in HP with the headers and exhaust but I also had added other mods at the same time.I'll see if I can find my Dyno sheets.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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randy aren't long tube headers replace test pipes??
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
randy aren't long tube headers replace test pipes??
tis true. long tube headers have the collectors merge where the cat used to be. the crawfords may have "long" primaries, but they are in fact equal length shorties.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
randy aren't long tube headers replace test pipes??
Yes, Long tube replace headers and cats. Crawford headers are "Equal Length" but they are not long tube.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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The Crawford headers have 26" tubes and meet up to the cats in the stock location.

The rest of the discussion is "how long is long"?
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by randyshemin@comcast.
The Crawford headers have 26" tubes and meet up to the cats in the stock location.

The rest of the discussion is "how long is long"?
Nice info and good point. Ok I have the solution! These are Long Tube Shorties!
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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well i think long tube generally means replaces test pipes... so they're still shorties w/ longer piping. they're medium tube headers
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I just contacted Supersprint and spoke to a rep. Apparently they will be offering long tube headers, no price is available yet tho. And they are only for 2005 and newer Zs... LAME. :/ I didn't know Nissan made any kind of changes that would make headers for the 05 not fit on an 03 Z. Any thoughts?
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https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-drivetrain/157438-got-my-car-finally-dyno-ed.html

there's my dyno sheet with all my mods. next step is some kind of piggyback...IMO the headers helped out alot, but gave me alot of rasp because of the cat-deletes, but i dont mind it so much anymore...you get used to it
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On that dyno sheet.. the first run was without the headers and the second run with the headers? Or were both runs back to back with no parts changes?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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back to back with no runs changed...sadly i never got a baseline...
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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As a rule of thumb, a runner length of 36" would be optimal for N/A applications. Ideally a nice collector like the Burns stainless collectors should be used to maximize the powerband.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
As a rule of thumb, a runner length of 36" would be optimal for N/A applications. Ideally a nice collector like the Burns stainless collectors should be used to maximize the powerband.
You mean something like this:
Attached Thumbnails Full length Long Tube Headers?-jacks-header1.jpg  
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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^ What header is that???
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