Ok, I changed my quote. But I am still standing by my word in saying I gained something from the Kinetix V+. Not saying the V+ alone gave me those numbers but I know for sure it made a difference. I must say right after my install I felt a big difference with the V+ the rpms would shoot up alot faster and I know my car was breathing better. You get to know your car like a women. Example.. You dont even look at the speedometer and know your going 40mph.. Thats when you feel the engine, and feel your cars performance.

 

I've had the V+ and Kinetix HFC on about 10k miles, along w/ a KJR lightweight pulley. No problems to report, and I like it that the car certainly revs quicker and seemingly w/ less "effort". Coupled w/ nismo exhaust, tho, it's pretty loud above 3500 rpm.

 

kinetix is a joke. Doesn't matter V4, V+, SSV, HFC, whatever.

No reputable shop would deal with them or install their parts. No respectable enthusiast would run their parts. Do research and get a feel of what kinetix puts to market and you will understand where I am coming from.

Kinetix = crap; plain and simple

 

Zivman: we are aware that they are not APS. Thank you.

 

oh boy...almost fell out of my chair laughing

 

With a properly installed spacer this will not be a problem. Both gaskets if installed properly will be no more likely to break a seal than the single nissan factory gasket.

But, as far as Kinetix (in particular the SSV), I know someone that just exploded the welds on their SSV running 15psi. I'd rather let him make his own post about it, but it just doesn't scream quality on Kinetix's behalf...

I personally had Kinetix HFC's on my car when I was NA, and one eventually completely snapped in half without me even hitting anything and scraping. I looked that the weld quality afterwards and it was complete garbage. At least they have decent customer service though, I warrantied them for a replacement set and immediately sold them as new.

 

so the ssv is both upper and lower.....so it a complete package instead of buying the mrev 2, spacer, and an upper plenum?

 

their customer service is no longer existent. are they falling off the face of this earth?

 

KRAPNETIX end of story...

 

Not with the Motordyne spacers... At least not any more.

They now come with gaskets bonded to the upper and lower surface of the spacer. So instead of having two separate seams above and below the spacer, the spacer is now essentially one thick gasket with an aluminum core.

The material used on these new gaskets is also much thicker and more compliant than the stock Nissan gaskets so they seal much better.

In fact the new gaskets seal so much better that they can seal over slightly bent or gouged surfaces (not that you want a slightly bent or gouged plenum) but the new gaskets are much better than what they were previously with the thin stock metal gaskets.

It also makes it much easier to install too. No more having to align a series of gaskets with the spacer while putting in bolts. The alignment was an issue and sometimes cause bent or folded over metal gaskets. But not any more. Its much more reliable and simpler to install.

Its one more small evolution of the Motordyne design, but its definitly a good improvement.

Tony

PS I'll get pics of it posted soon.

 

Now this is information (exploding welds at 15psi) that needs to be posted.
My issue is the fanboys who attack products with no facts. You just posted two facts, the most interesting to me the SSV issue. Thank you for the info.
BTW, Happy New Year.

 

Interesting development, Tony, and takes the wind out of my one dislike of spacers. Good job.

 

I had to buy the aps strut bar to use with my kinetix plenum becuase the stock strut bar would still rub.... i could feel all the engine's vibrations and i kept hearing a clanking sound when i turned... i also know another guy that did the same thing with the same plenum

 

i heard it was junk

 

So what did you order?

 

I had the Kinetix V+ great mod. It gives the Z a nice growl and power was felt all around. But, I too had rubing issues with the strut bar so I put washers on the strut bar and problem fixed.

 

Hmmmmm because it appears to be a drag car and looks like it would outperform most people on this forums spacer or plenum... just a thought.

+1 washers will space the stock strut bar just fine with a taller plenum

 

Kinetix supplied strut mount spacers w/ my V+. It took a little adjusting of the stock strut bar to get it to the proper tension, but since then, no problems.
Before installing, I painted my V+ wrinkle black, just for appearance sake. I had a little rubbing between one hood support member and the plenum as evidenced by wearing off of the paint. I put a piece of black double sided tape on the appropriate support member and the problem, as small as it was, was solved.
I've had this plenum on for beaucoup miles, along w/ Kinetix hi-flo cats and have had ZERO problems. I guess I just don't understand why there is so much Kinetix bashing. Even during installation of the V+, I called them regarding torque specs and possible flexing/cracking. They were polite, responsive and gave me good info.

 

I need to purchase a plenum asap. Is there anyone that would have them in stock, that could overnight it to me? My longblock is done, along with the SFR kit. I just need to install a plenum. Where could I purchase the Kinetix through?

 

Just because they provide decent customer service doesn't mean their products are any good. they put no real R&D into their products. You see 5 revisions now on their orginal plenum and it is still less than adequate IMHO. I have seen and installed their products on other cars, and they are crap plain and simple. With so many better options out there - crawford, helix, UTR, APS, cosworth, just to name a few, there is absolutely no reason to run kinetix