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Old 11-27-2006 | 05:20 AM
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I have seen the top 100 thread and used the search feature but want some actual feedback from people that have my situation.... I have an 06Z with pop charger, 5/16MD, Mrev2, test pipes, Borla TD and UTEC... I have to say I like the sound of the pop charger but the stalling thing freaking sucks *****... Anytime I put the car into neutral at high speeds it stalls... Plus I dont feel it is making much of a difference... Has anybody here put the stock box (with a slide in K&N) back on and felt the car run better... I mean, I know it will solve the stalling issue but will the car perform better... Reason i ask is I used to have an IS300 with some work done and the performance was actually better with the stock box (with a slide in K&N) compared to any other type of CAI or short ram...

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common 10 views and nothing??
Old 11-27-2006 | 06:29 AM
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I have no expirience with what your asking, but if you'd like my opinion...

It seems the stock intake system is quite efficient, not too many bends and the intake charge stays somewhat cool. I'm running a panel filter/ram-air duct/Carbon fiber tube intake, all for less than an your avg. CAI. If your irritated by the stalling issue just throw in a panel filter in and go, the power lost can be picked up elsewhere.
Old 11-27-2006 | 06:36 AM
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id rather keep the stock box, but i like the roar sound more
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The stock airbox is much better than any intake. The only intake I would take over the stock airbox is the gruppe-s carbon fiber intake only because it looks great.

I have a stock airbox with a Blitz LM drop in filter which works great and no stalling. On a side note, you should never put your vehicle in neutral at highway speeds, even though it did stall you aren't supposed to do that.

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Old 11-27-2006 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by drap660
Anytime I put the car into neutral at high speeds it stalls...
But why put in neutral!?
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Originally Posted by z-u-later
But why put in neutral!?
It boggles your mind doesn't it? haha
Old 11-27-2006 | 12:10 PM
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Yeah... I cant imagine ever needing to drop into neutral at high speeds... (unless your girlfriend bumps it when leaning over )

I bought the K&N and felt a little more sluggish according to the butt dyno. I'm going to try a few different combinations involving the stock air box and see where I end up. Nitrouz (I think it was him..) did a great write up on the popcharger.
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yeah one of the guys on this forum did a write up on th popcharger vs. stock air box and the popcharger did better i believe but i read that awhile ago but if you can find that guy he should know. It might be nitrouz like the guy said above bring it to his attention. I have a popcharger and seemed to get a little performance over the stock air box but thats all on the butt dyno so ask nitrouz.
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The pop charger adds some top end but kills some low end torque. For me (REVUP), having as much torque as possible is crucial.
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oh ok yeah that makes since i dont have the rev-up so im working with more torque so for me up top would make more since.
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question: I have a popcharger and my car has never stalled people have a problem with their cars stalling.
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Originally Posted by marques1
question: I have a popcharger and my car has never stalled people have a problem with their cars stalling.

People stall it because they do idiotic things like coasting (putting the shifter in neutral) at highway speeds.

Just don't coast at high speeds and you'll be fine.
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Idiotic or not, the car should not cut off just because you pushed the clutch in. What if in an emergency you had to clutch and brake at the same time, pretty intuitive for most of us? No way the car should cut off. I played with a CAI on another late model Nissan which did the exact same thing. Eventually, I put the OEM filter box back on, and then started from scratch. It turns out I hadn't pulled the battery cable before disconnecting the MAF, and also installed the MAF 90deg out. Not sure which one had anything to do with it, but that all but fixed it.
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Originally Posted by undrgnd
Idiotic or not, the car should not cut off just because you pushed the clutch in. What if in an emergency you had to clutch and brake at the same time, pretty intuitive for most of us? No way the car should cut off. I played with a CAI on another late model Nissan which did the exact same thing. Eventually, I put the OEM filter box back on, and then started from scratch. It turns out I hadn't pulled the battery cable before disconnecting the MAF, and also installed the MAF 90deg out. Not sure which one had anything to do with it, but that all but fixed it.
You want a simple answer? Increase your idle speed, the main reason why it shuts off is because your rpm climbs down and your idle is low with the POP charger. Increase your idle and you should be fine, but only in an emergency.

But even in an emergency, you shouldn't put it into neutral. You should either press the brakes in the gear you are in or downshift.
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Originally Posted by drap660
Anytime I put the car into neutral at high speeds it stalls.
Patient: Hey Doc when I do this with my arm it hurts.

Doctor: Then don't do that.
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
The stock airbox is much better than any intake. .

completely and totally false. The stock airbox is restricting, and definitely DOES NOT outflow any aftermarket intake, especially the JWT Pop charger.
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Originally Posted by davidv
Patient: Hey Doc when I do this with my arm it hurts.

Doctor: Then don't do that.
HA HA. . perfect !!
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Im not saying putting it in neutral, I mean just lets say you are slowing down from about 80 and need to stop and make a U-turn (after a str8 away race), U slow down fast hold down the clutch to swith back to 2nd or 1st and it stalls(sometimes).. I put my stock box back on with a K&N and it doesnt do it but dyno'd 4hp less and feels like I lost more, but I think thats because my utec was tuned with the popcrapper so I just put the pop crapper back on and will deal with it


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