Stillen Cold Air Box - installed w/ pix
I'll just leave it at this...
the optimal insulation is usually something that alternates layers of reflective (foil, mylar) and non-reflective (fiberglass, foam).
The reflective layers block out radiative heat transfer (heat you feel when you put your hand near a metal that is red-hot)
the non-reflective layers prevent air molecules from bumping into a hot surface and picking up heat... this is convective heat transfer. (heat you feel coming out of a hot oven)
There will be diminishing returns after the first couple of layers, but that's the general idea.
You don't want JUST aluminum foil because it has a high thermal conductivity. You need something with a low thermal conductivity to reduce convective heat transfer.
the optimal insulation is usually something that alternates layers of reflective (foil, mylar) and non-reflective (fiberglass, foam).
The reflective layers block out radiative heat transfer (heat you feel when you put your hand near a metal that is red-hot)
the non-reflective layers prevent air molecules from bumping into a hot surface and picking up heat... this is convective heat transfer. (heat you feel coming out of a hot oven)
There will be diminishing returns after the first couple of layers, but that's the general idea.
You don't want JUST aluminum foil because it has a high thermal conductivity. You need something with a low thermal conductivity to reduce convective heat transfer.
Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
I'll just leave it at this...
the optimal insulation is usually something that alternates layers of reflective (foil, mylar) and non-reflective (fiberglass, foam).
The reflective layers block out radiative heat transfer (heat you feel when you put your hand near a metal that is red-hot)
the non-reflective layers prevent air molecules from bumping into a hot surface and picking up heat... this is convective heat transfer. (heat you feel coming out of a hot oven)
There will be diminishing returns after the first couple of layers, but that's the general idea.
You don't want JUST aluminum foil because it has a high thermal conductivity. You need something with a low thermal conductivity to reduce convective heat transfer.
the optimal insulation is usually something that alternates layers of reflective (foil, mylar) and non-reflective (fiberglass, foam).
The reflective layers block out radiative heat transfer (heat you feel when you put your hand near a metal that is red-hot)
the non-reflective layers prevent air molecules from bumping into a hot surface and picking up heat... this is convective heat transfer. (heat you feel coming out of a hot oven)
There will be diminishing returns after the first couple of layers, but that's the general idea.
You don't want JUST aluminum foil because it has a high thermal conductivity. You need something with a low thermal conductivity to reduce convective heat transfer.
Unlike most cars, this is a real challenge since the OEM airbox and intake tube are pretty damn good from the start.
Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
I'll just leave it at this...
the optimal insulation is usually something that alternates layers of reflective (foil, mylar) and non-reflective (fiberglass, foam).
The reflective layers block out radiative heat transfer (heat you feel when you put your hand near a metal that is red-hot)
the non-reflective layers prevent air molecules from bumping into a hot surface and picking up heat... this is convective heat transfer. (heat you feel coming out of a hot oven)
There will be diminishing returns after the first couple of layers, but that's the general idea.
You don't want JUST aluminum foil because it has a high thermal conductivity. You need something with a low thermal conductivity to reduce convective heat transfer.
the optimal insulation is usually something that alternates layers of reflective (foil, mylar) and non-reflective (fiberglass, foam).
The reflective layers block out radiative heat transfer (heat you feel when you put your hand near a metal that is red-hot)
the non-reflective layers prevent air molecules from bumping into a hot surface and picking up heat... this is convective heat transfer. (heat you feel coming out of a hot oven)
There will be diminishing returns after the first couple of layers, but that's the general idea.
You don't want JUST aluminum foil because it has a high thermal conductivity. You need something with a low thermal conductivity to reduce convective heat transfer.
Sweet intake!
Which strut bar is that? Crawford or APS?
I have a similar setup (stillen airbox, mrev2, crawford plenum) but went with the Stillen STB which is apparently a no-no with the Stillen airbox because the MAF gets in the way.
Also, any hood rubbing with the plenum?
To those wondering about heat coming in from the fan....
On the dyno my runs got worse instead of improving like many people say it should....
Not drawing any solid conclusions since plenum heat may have been a factor but I did not see any Popcharger guys drop power after each run...
Which strut bar is that? Crawford or APS?
I have a similar setup (stillen airbox, mrev2, crawford plenum) but went with the Stillen STB which is apparently a no-no with the Stillen airbox because the MAF gets in the way.
Also, any hood rubbing with the plenum?
To those wondering about heat coming in from the fan....
On the dyno my runs got worse instead of improving like many people say it should....
Not drawing any solid conclusions since plenum heat may have been a factor but I did not see any Popcharger guys drop power after each run...
Last edited by INTIMAZY; May 17, 2007 at 02:45 PM.
Originally Posted by INTIMAZY
Which strut bar is that? Crawford or APS?
Originally Posted by INTIMAZY
Also, any hood rubbing with the plenum?
Originally Posted by INTIMAZY
I did not see any Popcharger guys drop power after each run...
Side note: i'm actually get sick of this thread, it just won't die.
Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
Does the stillen intake come with a CARB-EO #?
Originally Posted by thanh27
Yes, it does. Comes in the same bag that holds the installation isntructions along with directions on getting a replacement.
Couple questions for you.
1. Does this intake change the daily driving of the car such as bogging, heatsoak, less torque, less responsive, needing to press the gas more for acceleration?
2. Do you believe its an improvement over stock airbox under normal driving and WOT?
Thank you. I think i will be changing my pop charger, just had to ask before i do.
1. Does this intake change the daily driving of the car such as bogging, heatsoak, less torque, less responsive, needing to press the gas more for acceleration?
2. Do you believe its an improvement over stock airbox under normal driving and WOT?
Thank you. I think i will be changing my pop charger, just had to ask before i do.
Originally Posted by SuperBlack350
1. Does this intake change the daily driving of the car such as bogging, heatsoak, less torque, less responsive, needing to press the gas more for acceleration?
Originally Posted by SuperBlack350
2. Do you believe its an improvement over stock airbox under normal driving and WOT?
Not much of a difference but good for when you you're trying to pull every last horsepower out of the engine n/a.
Originally Posted by tranceformer95
Feels the same really, just more noise than stock.
I'm hoping there is a difference at WOT. I doubt its anymore than 5hp. I'd be lying if i said i could feel it pull harder.
Not much of a difference but good for when you you're trying to pull every last horsepower out of the engine n/a.
I'm hoping there is a difference at WOT. I doubt its anymore than 5hp. I'd be lying if i said i could feel it pull harder.
Not much of a difference but good for when you you're trying to pull every last horsepower out of the engine n/a.
thanks for the responses. I'm just afraid i'm going to dish out even more money for something that i lose daily drivability out of. I know i'm N/A but i think it's kinda dumb to go FI while still paying for the car.
As long as i dont' lose anymore usable torque down low(test pipes), i'm going to get one of these.
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