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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
I have a question for the OP...how will tuning these go? I mean, do you think our stock ECU is capable of adjusting to them over time, or not? I recall Honda guys having some trouble tuning these even with piggy banks. But then again, we're driving Zs, and not Tegs.

Also, what about the filter situation? This removes an airbox, right? So I'm assuming there won't be anything put in place to filter the air intake, eh?

Just figured I'd ask.
he was sayin we'd have to have a shop fabricate a bit of an air box. i guess we could just get individual air filters for each throttle body couldnt we? good questions though. we need answers OP!
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Yeah, individual baby filters is another option I thought would be feasible.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Arnold K.,You can run these with just filters if you use a stand alone and get rid of the airflow meter.You will have to use a map sensor and air temp sensor instead.I think that either the Haltech or Utec should be able to do this.
KeOki2k, the factory ecu is capable but you will need an airbox and you will have to use your airflow meter.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zxman69
the factory ecu is capable but you will need an airbox and you will have to use your airflow meter.
Are there plans to sell an oversized airbox or an airbox with an oversized MAF included or are you leaving that up to the customer?
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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We are working on an airbox , but not on an maf.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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how bout just an insert for the stock maf...

would that work? i dont see why it wouldn't work...
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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bump.. i would love to see this happen
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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I thought that one of the issues with a MAF and ITBs was the gulp factor associated with them???

My research indicates that MAP and RPM tuning is usually the best way to do it becuase it is very hard to keep up with the gulp factor otherwise.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Neil,

What material are you making the proposed airboxes out of?

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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We wil be offering both fiberglass and carbon fiber
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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but for your car I would just use filters unless you are planning to use the airflow meter.
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Originally Posted by zxman69
but for your car I would just use filters unless you are planning to use the airflow meter.
Thanks for the response.

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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Fiberglass? Isn't that a very pourous material to be using in that application?
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Fiberglass boxes are used all the time but for more $$$ we can make it out of carbon fiber.
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if they make this happen they should make the intake box cover the itb's then come out towards from the front of the car like the corvettes have it on the lsx engines. i think that is the best bet. that way there is no need for a different hood, resulting into more cost to consumer.
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Originally Posted by FAIRLADYZ_MANnE
if they make this happen they should make the intake box cover the itb's then come out towards from the front of the car like the corvettes have it on the lsx engines. i think that is the best bet. that way there is no need for a different hood, resulting into more cost to consumer.
how exactly would that result in lower cost? then you still have to make, or sell ducting to the intake, incorporating some sort of scoop for the bumper area. No matter how you slice it, this is a $5000 + project easily by the time you assemble all the components you need, not to mention the install/setup costs and tuning costs. So you're trading a cost of a hood for costs elsewhere, and at the end of the day, anyone truthfully considering this type of mod (beyond the cool factor) is not going to be put off by either of these additional costs.

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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
how exactly would that result in lower cost? then you still have to make, or sell ducting to the intake, incorporating some sort of scoop for the bumper area. No matter how you slice it, this is a $5000 + project easily by the time you assemble all the components you need, not to mention the install/setup costs and tuning costs. So you're trading a cost of a hood for costs elsewhere, and at the end of the day, anyone truthfully considering this type of mod (beyond the cool factor) is not going to be put off by either of these additional costs.
well if the ITB;s have filters there will be a good amount of heat soak.
unless there was another hood made for the ITB's, there will alot hot air going into your engine.

regardless there is gonna be a intake box made and i think that the best idea . would be just a cover with the horns popping into the intake box and a 3in maf.. but similar to the vettes intakes, for those who don;t know, the intake comes from the intake manifold, from the middle and straight forward to the bumper sucking in cold air. vs heat soaked air.

but if the whole setup is about 5000 plus.
how much horsepower would we expect from this.
25whp?
50whp?
100whp?

FI/ is about 9000 for a reliable 400whp. this equation is off the top of my head, but i think its at least ballpark

i would rather have a 350whp car with a 100shot when i need it vs a FI Z with 450whp... turbos and superchargers put alot stress on an engine. i just would rather have a NA z
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FAIRLADYZ_MANnE
well if the ITB;s have filters there will be a good amount of heat soak.
unless there was another hood made for the ITB's, there will alot hot air going into your engine.

regardless there is gonna be a intake box made and i think that the best idea . would be just a cover with the horns popping into the intake box and a 3in maf.. but similar to the vettes intakes, for those who don;t know, the intake comes from the intake manifold, from the middle and straight forward to the bumper sucking in cold air. vs heat soaked air.

but if the whole setup is about 5000 plus.
how much horsepower would we expect from this.
25whp?
50whp?
100whp?

FI/ is about 9000 for a reliable 400whp. this equation is off the top of my head, but i think its at least ballpark

i would rather have a 350whp car with a 100shot when i need it vs a FI Z with 450whp... turbos and superchargers put alot stress on an engine. i just would rather have a NA z
The airbox has to be a large volume to maintain the advantage of the ITBs. Also ITB's shift the power band further up, but on an otherwise stock long block, it's not going to make huge numbers. Throttle response from ITBs of course is another story entirely.

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