ITB's available soon
10-17-2007, 09:56 AM
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Just a quick note for you guys.The kits will be shipping out from England hopefully this Friday. I will post up more photo of them when they are here. Chris aka NA&ch will hopefully be making a trip across the state to look at them and I'm sure he will take some photos and give you his impressions s well. As soon as we get the air boxes and pedal adaptors designed and tested we will begin taking orders, right now the ones I have sold are going out to shops and race teams to get their feedback. xlr8r was asking about the plate sizes. They are staight 48 mm for the standard street kit and 52 tapering down to 48 on the street/full race kits. Sorry I haven't been on here more to answer everyones questions but my job makes a lot of demands on my time.
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10-17-2007, 11:20 AM
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Just a quick note for you guys.The kits will be shipping out from England hopefully this Friday. I will post up more photo of them when they are here. Chris aka NA&ch will hopefully be making a trip across the state to look at them and I'm sure he will take some photos and give you his impressions s well. As soon as we get the air boxes and pedal adaptors designed and tested we will begin taking orders, right now the ones I have sold are going out to shops and race teams to get their feedback. xlr8r was asking about the plate sizes. They are staight 48 mm for the standard street kit and 52 tapering down to 48 on the street/full race kits. Sorry I haven't been on here more to answer everyones questions but my job makes a lot of demands on my time.
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Alot of times are hopes are raised and then people vanish....lol
10-17-2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zxman69
Just a quick note for you guys.The kits will be shipping out from England hopefully this Friday. I will post up more photo of them when they are here. Chris aka NA&ch will hopefully be making a trip across the state to look at them and I'm sure he will take some photos and give you his impressions s well. As soon as we get the air boxes and pedal adaptors designed and tested we will begin taking orders, right now the ones I have sold are going out to shops and race teams to get their feedback. xlr8r was asking about the plate sizes. They are staight 48 mm for the standard street kit and 52 tapering down to 48 on the street/full race kits. Sorry I haven't been on here more to answer everyones questions but my job makes a lot of demands on my time.
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10-20-2007, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ88
I'd love to see your calculations on this....
Another things that makes 48mm seem appropriate is that the OEM intake runners at their most "round" spot, where the lower plenum bolts to the runners, is 48mm.
I've been preparing to make a custom set of ITB's I have been going back & forth between 46mm or 50mm, 48mm is the happy medium.
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10-21-2007, 03:53 PM
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dont want to get off topic, but you said YOU had calculations... my logic tells me that ITB's of the same size as the runners on the plenum will flow WAY more air...
10-25-2007, 05:38 AM
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full standalone would not be needed actually....UTEC + Map sensor, in theory, would work just fine (no idea if the resolution is enough, but by eliminating the maf, it should work just fine
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
full standalone would not be needed actually....UTEC + Map sensor, in theory, would work just fine (no idea if the resolution is enough, but by eliminating the maf, it should work just fine
10-25-2007, 05:41 AM
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I would think about these @ the 2k price range, but 3500... that is damn high!
Fortunately when these hit the market it wont be too long before someone else has another version.
Fortunately when these hit the market it wont be too long before someone else has another version.
10-25-2007, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
What happens when the stock ECU throws the car into safe mode cause it does not pick up a TPs sensor?Would the utec over run that?We never tried the UTEC in that set up,although in theory it would work.
10-25-2007, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MI 35th
you would just have to rig up a resistor to send the signal to ecu that the car is always at idle, then tune for that map.
10-25-2007, 06:04 AM
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It's kind of hard to believe people are considering using a piggyback to tune ITB's. As great & proven as Utec is I think you'll save yourself a lot of trouble by using a standalone. Itb's are known to be difficult to tune & you need a fair amount of resolution to get them running right in the lower RPM's. You might be able to get a decent tune with Utec, but after all the hoops & hurdles you have to jump through will it be worth it in comparison to just going with a standalone?
10-25-2007, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MI 35th
I would think about these @ the 2k price range, but 3500... that is damn high!
Fortunately when these hit the market it wont be too long before someone else has another version.
Fortunately when these hit the market it wont be too long before someone else has another version.
10-25-2007, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by xlr8r
It's kind of hard to believe people are considering using a piggyback to tune ITB's. As great & proven as Utec is I think you'll save yourself a lot of trouble by using a standalone. Itb's are known to be difficult to tune & you need a fair amount of resolution to get them running right in the lower RPM's. You might be able to get a decent tune with Utec, but after all the hoops & hurdles you have to jump through will it be worth it in comparison to just going with a standalone?
Let's also not forget not every standalone can control ITB's either, at least out of the box. So the "hurdles" could be the same no matter which route you go.
Would a standalone be better with ITB's on an NA car? Maybe, maybe not - once again, all depends on the level of expertise of the person punching the keys
Like anything else you do to a car, the "hard parts" are only one small component - the person doing the tuning is probably the most under rated, and necessary part of the equation (assuming you are using quality parts that fit and were designed for a specific application and/or function).
Personally, I'm not going for this on my own car as I just don't see the need given my setup (relative to the cost), but I applaud someone for taking the initiative to do it.
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