True Dual Exhausts
Originally Posted by undrgnd
Oh, what I could do with this! I work in retail. That's hilarious!
Coming from retail, you must be shocked that your well acquainted rep told you that HIS product is the best choice. Of-course he could have sold you a Greddy - Clue: He didn't. Honestly, you are obviously a noob when it comes to that hot, shiny thing under the hood. Don't give me that I can't be conned, I work in retail crap. As said earlier, exhaust note is very subjective, so that's your call alone. Weight is not an issue, your car weighs almost 2 tons, so that extra 10lbs won't be an issue. As far as performance goes, none are going to peel the tires off your rims, so that's a secondary consideration anyway.
Sorry everyone, I just couldn't help it.
Coming from retail, you must be shocked that your well acquainted rep told you that HIS product is the best choice. Of-course he could have sold you a Greddy - Clue: He didn't. Honestly, you are obviously a noob when it comes to that hot, shiny thing under the hood. Don't give me that I can't be conned, I work in retail crap. As said earlier, exhaust note is very subjective, so that's your call alone. Weight is not an issue, your car weighs almost 2 tons, so that extra 10lbs won't be an issue. As far as performance goes, none are going to peel the tires off your rims, so that's a secondary consideration anyway.
Sorry everyone, I just couldn't help it.
Normally a consumer listens to the person selling them something and takes there word. Since the guy that sold him that "lied" or whatever now he is less credible and so is the company. Take it for what it is worth
Originally Posted by Arnold K.
20lbs of weight isn't going to make a remotely noticeable difference.
Originally Posted by phat04350z
aparently you didnt take anything from what I stated. The main point was loosing weight is more valuable the gaining HP.
Originally Posted by Arnold K.
100lbs would make a rather large difference, actually.
Originally Posted by phat04350z
100lbs is actually a lot. Run the 1/4 mile with a full interior and then run again with the passanger seat out 

Ever heard of Google? The web is full of these calculators. They are not exact to the 1/100th of a second, but they are all in the same range, and the relative times for different weights are really close: 100lbs reduction will get you about one tenth in the quarter. Plenty of people on this board that run their cars at the track will tell you the same thing.
1/4 mile time calculator
Originally Posted by undrgnd
It is better to remain quiet and thought a fool than to open mouth and remove all doubt.
Ever heard of Google? The web is full of these calculators. They are not exact to the 1/100th of a second, but they are all in the same range, and the relative times for different weights are really close: 100lbs reduction will get you about one tenth in the quarter. Plenty of people on this board that run their cars at the track will tell you the same thing.
1/4 mile time calculator
Ever heard of Google? The web is full of these calculators. They are not exact to the 1/100th of a second, but they are all in the same range, and the relative times for different weights are really close: 100lbs reduction will get you about one tenth in the quarter. Plenty of people on this board that run their cars at the track will tell you the same thing.
1/4 mile time calculator
Originally Posted by phat04350z
1/10th in the 1/4 mile is actually A LOT!
As far as working in retail, they say a salesperson is the easiest person to sell. Not surprisingly, you were sold a system by a comission salesperson who sells a somewhat limited range of products, and they likely sold you what they make the most profit on. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, as the HKS, Greddy and Stillen (those are their top 3 brands) all produce similar "gains".
The exhaust you were sold works fine, and is well made...it makes no more, nor less power than ANY other exhaust out there. The differences of course between them all are weight (Stillen is heavier than stock), and the quality of construction and sound.
Regarding dual exhausts, I am considering the Borla and Fast Intentions.
I want something with the power of a dual, the weight of a faux-dual (not a single), the harmonic sound of an x-pipe, and the looks of something classy (not HKS style).
Do the resonators in the mid section of the Fast Intentions exhaust act as an X pipe, or are the pipes separate within that? I know the Borla connects in the final muffler, but does it connect before there at all?
Sorry for some newb questions...
And anybody have the weight on these 2 systems compared to stock?
The AAM 2.5'' dual looks/sounds nice, but I couldn't tell if it had any x-pipe, and it only saved 6-7lbs (Not looking for some titanium 5lb system, just a few lbs can't hurt).
Impressions comparing these 3?
I want something with the power of a dual, the weight of a faux-dual (not a single), the harmonic sound of an x-pipe, and the looks of something classy (not HKS style).
Do the resonators in the mid section of the Fast Intentions exhaust act as an X pipe, or are the pipes separate within that? I know the Borla connects in the final muffler, but does it connect before there at all?
Sorry for some newb questions...
And anybody have the weight on these 2 systems compared to stock?
The AAM 2.5'' dual looks/sounds nice, but I couldn't tell if it had any x-pipe, and it only saved 6-7lbs (Not looking for some titanium 5lb system, just a few lbs can't hurt).
Impressions comparing these 3?
Does it make me God when I can easily feel a large difference between a full tank of gas and a nearly empty one?
Seriously, sometimes people here are too quick to tell someone how and what they should be feeling. I feel weight changes in my car instantly, whether it's my 200lb cousin, or my 105lb girlfriend, or a 112lb tank of gas.
Seriously, sometimes people here are too quick to tell someone how and what they should be feeling. I feel weight changes in my car instantly, whether it's my 200lb cousin, or my 105lb girlfriend, or a 112lb tank of gas.
Originally Posted by phat04350z
3" is just to big on a n/a car. FI whole different ball game
And is the best sounding exhaust TO ME. I have had- EvoII, Pro-1, Xo2, JiC, Turboxs and 1 more but cant remember



