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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Just wrapped my intake and air box. After watching IATs before and after the mod with Cipher, I noticed no appreciable difference in intake temps while the car was moving above 30mph.

However, while stopped at a trafficic light or being stuck behind some slow-@ss grandma in a minivan, I noticed my AITs were 15C to 20C cooler with the intake & airbox wrapped!

A cool inexpensive mod. :-)
Now the next thing to data log is how much quicker it reaches the steady state temperature once you start moving.

It typically takes about 8 more seconds to cool down when its not wrapped. And due to the ECU's change in timing that means somewhere around 5-10 HP lost for that first 8 seconds.

Its not earth shattering but its there. For dyno testing and drag racing its worth doing.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Simple, Convincing, Cheap, power. Just placed my order for some wrap too, hopefully this helps keep the dyno readings more consistent during tuning.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
I just ordered this for the straight part of the intake tube:

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=THE%2D13575

And this for curves, bends, and odd shapes (like the MAF sensor):

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

I think I'll try to insulate the airbox as much as I can too.
Just curious, how many quanties (if you ordered more than one of each) did you order. I'm about to place my order and I want to know how much I should buy. Thanks.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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there was a thing in import tuner mag last month about a water/meth cooled intake wrap. i agree the idea is good, but would this thing really work??? it looks to me like a turbonatorish item
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Frostydc4
Just curious, how many quanties (if you ordered more than one of each) did you order. I'm about to place my order and I want to know how much I should buy. Thanks.
One of each. I had a little left over, but that's pretty much the quanities you'll need.

Originally Posted by 03aeroZ
there was a thing in import tuner mag last month about a water/meth cooled intake wrap. i agree the idea is good, but would this thing really work??? it looks to me like a turbonatorish item
I actually thought that too, until I started seeing before and after logging by folks like Wired24/7, and a few others. After doing my own logging of before and after intake temps, I can say it does make a diffence. But that temp difference probably only translates to 2~3 hp... Then again, maybe not. Heat wrapping isn't terribly expensive, so I said, "Why not?" The more important thing for me was that this helped me to keep my tune more consistent.

I don't have any gripes about the heat wrap other than the adhesive doesn't stay completely tight. So you'll need to add a few zip-ties to keep everything snugged up.

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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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the thing i saw looked like a coil cooler wrapped around the intake tube. i will try to find pics of it. just curious if this thing would even work....more curious of if it would actually work than interest in buying it.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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the new ARC heat fins seem to work if theyre wrapped on the intercooler piping. they tested it on an Evo, put the fins on the pipes on either side of the intercooler...dropped intake temps.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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it was called the S-max ice tub: http://www.speedmaxperformance.com/

it takes a CO2 cooling system and wraps the intake tube in an aluminum tube that CO2 will run through. they claim it can be used as an intercooler on turbo system. interesting, but not so sure about it.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Flier129
the new ARC heat fins seem to work if theyre wrapped on the intercooler piping. they tested it on an Evo, put the fins on the pipes on either side of the intercooler...dropped intake temps.
I heard about this also but I'm wondering if it is safe to put on the plastic intake pipe. I'm thinking about adding this to the top of the plenum and right after the throttle body.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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nice info, I'll have to try it.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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youre not building big amounts of heat, you dont need to heat wrap your intake tube lol...

thats being a little over the edge. ur car will look like pure rice.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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only if you open the hood...
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by joe645733
youre not building big amounts of heat, you dont need to heat wrap your intake tube lol...

thats being a little over the edge. ur car will look like pure rice.
You apparently haven't opened the hood after a 20 minute track session and felt the immense amounts of heat underneath the hood.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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your right, it really is quite impressive how hot the engine bay gets. you cant even touch the top of the plenum.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Not sure who's car this is, but it looks like he used header wrap on his intake.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Not sure who's car this is, but it looks like he used header wrap on his intake.
not sure if you are advocating either way or if you are at all. it certainly would provide some barrier to the heat under the hood but it makes it alot tougher to dissapate the heat already present. header wrap is great for increasing temps to promote air moving at a higher velocity (less dense) but i do not see using it for the intake is beneficial. gothchick- i am not trying to provide you a lesson, im just quoting since you posted the pic.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave 90TT
You apparently haven't opened the hood after a 20 minute track session and felt the immense amounts of heat underneath the hood.
my bad, i didnt know he's tracking his Z.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave 90TT
You apparently haven't opened the hood after a 20 minute track session and felt the immense amounts of heat underneath the hood.
True, but once the plenum is heat soaked, it doesn't matter how hot the intake piping is.

Surely I'm not the only that has noticed that these motors are extremely consistent on the strip regardless of how hot or cold the motor is. I've tested my G at the strip (same days) with hot laps (3 back to back runs) and then letting the engine completely cool and making a run immediately. With the same 60 foots within 0.05 seconds, the ETs are within 0.05 seconds and MPH within 0.5mph. I have a very hard time believing that wrapping the intake is going make a huge difference in keeping performance consistent.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Huge difference?

No, of course not.



Small differrence?

Possibly.


Detrimental to performance?

Doubtful.



Worth the cost?

Only you can determine if it is worth it to you.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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It was worth it to me personally seeing the IATs go down... Cooler intake temps help combat knock, which helps you run a more aggressive tune. But to each their own.

Of coarse if you *really* wanted to lower intake temps, water/meth injection would be the way to go...
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