I never put any words in your mouth. I asked you to clarify your thought process as it seems that is how you think. All I'm saying is that a mod on a totally different car does provide beneficial results to the VQ community. Like i said, this was not meant to be the Be All Know All of plenum shootouts, it's for me to find out what plenum works the best and to share the information here and if any manufacturer want to help me in this endeavor than I thank them. You are a grown man, I'm sure, and can decide for yourself if this information is useful for you or not and apparently it is not, then you can ignore it. BTW ... I think you an I agree that FI and NA behaves differently with mods. Since my car is NA then the reference of 1% of car having upgraded cams is for NA. I'm sure a lot more then 1% of FI cars are cammed, but do you think that 1% of the owners of the VQ35 are FIed?

I don't have any personal agenda, the only guy that does is perhaps you. The writing is on the wall as to why you have a like Intense. I would too if my car was there. I've never made any accusations against them nor did i say their spacers was inferior, the only thing I said is that they didn't want to participate (I can only assume they are not interested after a month of not responding). I can guess why they may not be interested, as their spacer business is a small part of their operations. I have no issues with you or anyone standing behind a shop or manufacturer, but there is a limit as to how far one person can go on their personal time and effort before it gets a little overboard.

Looks like you are trying to dig up dirt on me. Did you find anything interesting to quote me on that deviates from my stand point or integrity? Yes, I did talk to Z1 about his plans for the cosworth and asked for his reasoning before purchasing it..is that a crime? If i don't know something i will ask anyone that i feel has more expertise on the subject or that has more experience. Does that change anything at all for this test, other then the affirmation why the cosworth should be tested again and why I am doing this test, which is obviously not for MD to put down Intense like you are claiming I am.

 

Thank you! Your post is greatly appreciated.
If there ever were two people who could train wreck a thread, its always the same two.

Thank you,
Tony

PS - You know anybody local to you who would like to dyno a Motordyne spacer on their REVUP?

 

Wow. I'm interested to see the results of this on ANY car. It'd be great to have a few cars at the testing time. Stock, yours, couple other bolt on modded cars, and a FI. REV and non-rev.

 

Seems to me that people don't understand the concept of a friendly warning. If you made a post with negative connotations after my warning in bright red just above that is now gone, consider that to be your warning. My next warning will come paired with a little vacation time. If it did not have any negativity but was deleted, I found it to be irrelevant to the topic at hand (the OP's topic).

 

hi chris... can you delete the spam posted by MD in unrelated thread(2 are sticky) to the subject too please?

thanks

 

Yeah, it would be interesting to see how different configurations will behave on different cars, but unfortunately it's not possible. Hopefully the manufacturer will come to an agreement to do so in the future.

Thanks for joining in and cleaning the thread up. My apologies if any of what I said was off topic.

QuickSilver,

Mistake on my part for the previous reply, I thought you were addressing me since you didn't quote anyone.

 

YOU ASKED FOR IT.

Darren

 

Back at you.

So now are you ready to do an independent test by a fair and impartial arbitrator?

 

what about the APS plenum? shouldn't that be added as well?

 

http://g35driver.com/forums/tuner-dy...dyno-test.html

 

KA,

That is a very legitimate point to bring up. Yet I don't agree with the results. Never did. It is inaccurate. I can also site several more similar and inaccurate references with plenum mod testing. What you see there is an artifact of the ECU changes in timing and plenum temperatures.

Just like Throttle Body spacers. Testing that can show phantom gains one dyno set and the gains disappear the next. We all know throttle body spacers don't work. There is no physical reason for them to work but it can be really easy to make them show a gain. This is exactly how a spacer can be made to show phantom gains on a REVUP engine.

The ECU showing phantom gains is also one of the things I have been discussing on the forums for years. When it comes to dyno testing there are many variables to control.

ECU and thermal "controls" must be implemented for accurate A/B dyno comparisons. It will all become clear once you see the properly controlled, accurate and independent testing.

Not just Gabe3d's but also with testing performed by MY350Z admin. A complete description of the testing and controls will be provided.

EDIT: Please see this throttle body spacer testing link. At a minimum, read this whole page.
http://g35driver.com/forums/intake-e...-spacer-8.html
It was a test performed on the throttle body spacer where baseline was taken. Post TB spacer install testing showed ~10HP gain. TB spacer was then removed and it showed the same 10HP gain over the first baseline.
The gains seen seen in the TB test were nothing more than phantom gains. It was ECU and thermal variables moving around.

 

You can use my bone stock (z-tube only) 2005 OB 6MT G Coupe.

I have a daily driver, if you want come and get it.

 

Thank you for the offer. There is other testing coming up soon.
It may not be necessary to do additional tests but lets go through the first couple of independent tests first.

Tony

 

Not a problem, I just spent the last 4 hrs of my life reading all the BS you and Intense are going thru.

I have no affiliation with either of you, I can't my G is bone stock.

Yet I do know the mods I want for it, by doing my homework and reading many post in many threads, both here and G35Driver.

The shop that will do my work is Injected Performance, I just wanted to throw my G out the to be used because its still stock.

 

Surely sir, you read the 2 above quotes during your 4 hr readings. Absolutely no sirring the pot or rehashing the Intense/MD arguement.

7 days off...

VO

 

I will post again. I have a 2005 6mt non rev with intake and exhaust. I will Dyno both or more whoever else wants to join and I will video record and post results. I will go thru CIN Motorsports who them nor me have connections with any of u. I wan to show unbias results bc members need to know best bang for the buck and not inflated dyno graphs by vendors.

Edit-Thi is not intended to start crap.

 

The real question lies in the REVUP. If you had a REVUP, sure.

 

So since the rev up is more responsive to beathing mods that's why y'all only want it? Hmm ok

 

Too bad I'm saving up for the XYZ pipe.

Otherwise I'd dyno it myself. I have a couple of Dyno shops very close by, but dyno's aren't cheap.

 

yeah, 50-75 bucks is SOOO much money, lol.