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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Package Dyno:

We have dynos showing low, peak, and high power ranges of yesterdays dyno.

We are very impressed with the power we made down low. So now we have the whole package. High, low, and mid. You can still credit the plenum for the high end and the headers, cats, and exhaust are contributing to the low end.

Basic break down:

@3800 RPM
17.2 ft-lbs TQ
12.6 HP

@ Peak
9.1 ft-lbs TQ
20HP

@6500 RPM
19.3 ft-lbs TQ
23.7 HP





For comparison this is the dyno plot from the stock run and just the plenum. Sorry we forgot to plot this with one of the new runs.




There will be a package deal for plenum, cats, strut bar and headers. The price has been set at $2350. $2150 without the strut bar. Headers alone are $1300.

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by dougrace zs
There will be a package deal for plenum, cats, strut bar and headers. The price has been set at $2350. $2150 without the strut bar. Headers alone are $1300.

WoW! 2 grand is all? At that price I'll take a dozen!
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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those are good numbers all the way around...by the way are you goin to have a package without the cats for people who have already bought test pipes or similar products?
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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WoW! 2 grand is all? At that price I'll take a dozen!
VISA # and shipping addy please?
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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How much improvement over the last dyno w/o headers?
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Will Technosquare ECU help the gains with this combo? I'd like to see dyno numbers with the ECU.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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Looks like the first two dynos are the same except for that line between 3.5 and 4k. Max power was 256.7 hp for the headers and the rest. The 3rd dyno looks like the plenum and the rest at 245.8 hp.

So, 256.7 hp - 245.8 hp = 10.9 hp. The headers gave max power of 11 hp. Is this correct?
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Originally posted by Diesel350
Will Technosquare ECU help the gains with this combo? I'd like to see dyno numbers with the ECU.
Technosquare has yet programmed an ECU for this application. So there won't be one for a while.

And yes it will help the gains be even greater by evening out the mixture.
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Originally posted by hfm
Looks like the first two dynos are the same except for that line between 3.5 and 4k. Max power was 256.7 hp for the headers and the rest. The 3rd dyno looks like the plenum and the rest at 245.8 hp.

So, 256.7 hp - 245.8 hp = 10.9 hp. The headers gave max power of 11 hp. Is this correct?
The last dyno was plenum only. The current dynos are with headers, plenum, cats, borla.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
The last dyno was plenum only. The current dynos are with headers, plenum, cats, borla.
Yeah, it's confusing to me. The first two were headers compared to stock. The third was plenum compared to stock. But, was the first two including the plenum? If so, then it's a 11 hp gain.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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It states the first dynos are with the entire package: plenum, headers, cats, and Borla compared to stock.

I think the point is to notice how even the gains are accross the power band as opposed to just the plenum where the gains are up top only.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ralphus
WoW! 2 grand is all? At that price I'll take a dozen!


Thats kind of pricy for 11hp dont you think?
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Originally posted by MustGoFastR
It states the first dynos are with the entire package: plenum, headers, cats, and Borla compared to stock.

I think the point is to notice how even the gains are accross the power band as opposed to just the plenum where the gains are up top only.
Yes but I was expecting more power gains overall.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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any A/F numbers? Curious to see how the A/F looks with this setup.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
Yes but I was expecting more power gaisn overall.
Me too. Especially since this is with the Borla? I wonder how much of the gains are attributed to it?
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Thats kind of pricy for 11hp dont you think?
That's for the package with gains of 20HP peak, amd 24 at redline. The only question is how much of that is attributed to the Borla, which is not part of the package deal?

Plus, we all know 5HP fron an intake + 11 from a set of header + 10 from an exhuast doesn't add up to 26 HP when used in conjunction. I'm sure we all would have been more impressed with a dyno of the headers alone compared to stock.

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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The gains shown on this dyno with the Plenum + Headers + cats and borla look very similar to the Gains that Tommy Kaira got with their Individual throttlebodies + headers + exhaust + ECU. They got only 24 PS up from those mods with an ECU, but with running cats. So its seems that unless you start running cams your not going to get magical FI type gains. Something to feel better about is that the M3 guys have to spend more than 8 Grand to get these types of gains, and they can't just slap on a procharger to make easy gains.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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Even with cams your only looking at another 15hp
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by M3This


Thats kind of pricy for 11hp dont you think?


Not really... Look where horsepower was ADDED.

The plenum took care of TOP end power, now let's make more down low - and introduce torque across the board. The focus here was improving the powerband! There are ZERO mods that improve torque like these headers are doing. PERIOD.

For THAT it's worth it.

Hell... if you want just peak numbers... you might want a different set of parts. You want POWER, you might want to consider laughing again.

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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I retract my previous comments. The gains down low is what matters. I'm still getting these headers no matter what.
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