kramykram

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actually i think if a company just made a set of testpipes with a really small hole in them it would work out just as well then no one would have to stuff. but that idea was shot down buy a few people. ill buy some non foulers today and see what i can work on with this idea. i just have no way to test as i have neither high flows or test pipes right now. i had pretty much put my car back to stock to trade it in. then that deal feel thru so now i am almost finished modding my car back to where she was.

Junkster

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Well if you need a tester I can volunteer haha

350zlee

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What are you making??

I added more stainless steel wool into the non-fouler on sat and the light pop up again tonight. I really hate these..........ANymore step I can do to avoid the light?

kramykram

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i need to see exatly what you did. did you just drill one all the way thru and part of the other so the o2 sensor can fit?? you should barely be able to blow thru it. i mean like cheeks puffing out you are blow so hard.

Junkster

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I was going to ask you for a description on how "hard" you had to blow. I guess this is good enough. Just pack it like i pack my fudge!

You also said to stuff the space between the sensor and the defouler as well right?

I have yet to do anything to be honest. I found out i have only one defouler installed now, and the other o2 is just installed directly on the pipe, duno what the PO was thinking...

You think i run any risk of damaging the o2's without the defoulers? I would assume you had to rock them directly in the stream of exhaust for a WHILE before they "broke" ... any opinions on this?

350zlee

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I am using a Vibrant, here is the link. I use the smallest holes
http://vibrantperformance.com/catalo...oducts_id=1605
and add another Non fouler on top of it. didn't drill........So I stuff the stainless steel wool into the Non fouler. but after 120km........engine light on again.........And before I put the stainless steel wool.....the light on after 40km. by the way, i installed the HFC, not testpipe........

350zlee

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Can anyone upload a pic of what kind of stainless steel wool you guys using? As many people mention the Brillo pad.......I really don't know whats that. Because I can't get it in toronto. Is it same as the S.O.S?

Junkster

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Interesting find! i have yet to see an adjustable defouler haha

Steel wool is steel wool IMO. I am going to give it a shot this week and just pack the crap out of them with steel wool and c what happens...

From the sound KramyKram's description you really have to stuff them so that barely any air passes through when you blow through them...

350zlee

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I stuffed so much wool into the non-fouler already......but still havn't work! Sigh.....!

Junkster

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I mean are you still able to blow through it? The sensor needs to feel some kind of a exhaust pulse lol...

did you also pack the space between the smaller hole and the actual o2 sensor tip? Its my understanding that thats how Kramy did it...

Who knows maybe your o2 are shot? That could also be a possibility....

350zlee

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I don't think it can blow through it......and I had 1 vibrant blug and 1 non-fouler each side and stuff with the wool into the non-fouler tightly. My 02 are brand new.......! so really don't know what happened........!

Junkster

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Well i think your suposed to use 2 defoulers per side...

350zlee

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YEah...I did.....one non fouler and one vibrant blug which is a lot longer then 1 non fouler....!

kramykram

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If you are using berks i know you do not need the non fouler for those as i found out later. being those are the only ones i have owned in test pipes and high flows. beleive me exhaust will find its way in there. you just want to be to barely be able to blow. added the extra steel wool keeps it from blow the packed steel wool back out.

Junkster

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I have Stillen HFC's i wonder how those compare to the Berks....hmmm

350zlee

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I am using a Ramdom Technology HFC.........!

kramykram

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Not seen a set of stillens either. i used the non foulers regardless when i first did this with my test pipes. it was not until i ordered a pair of high flows and swapped out that i noticed they were not needed on the berks.

0jiggy0

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I just redid my brillo and it works about perfect. Like kram said they eventually just fall apart. I believe the pics I posted in the thread kram is talking about should still be up. I guess I'm lucky I always get it on the first try, its really not that hard. It may eventually come back on and go off again.

Also just as a heads up that code doesn't affect the car in any way if that's what your scared of.

kramykram

iTrader: (135)

If you have stuffed and have a pretty good idea you did it right get the code scanned maybe its something else. I had a set of crap high flows I was told I had to use high temp silicone instead of a gasket to seal. I could not feel a single leak around the manifold to the high flow but kept getting a cel. So I ordered new o2 sensors. Still had the same cell. Ordered berk test pipes and the cell went away. So threw away 300 bucks on o2 sensors for nothing.

kramykram

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Oh damn yes brillo is the same. But you need to shread it and get all the soap off of it the best you can.